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Maverick1973
I’m not talking about what happened today. i was talking about generally. even if i talk about Conte there will always be objections and complains. even if i start a thread there will still be questions about my sincerity. noways i have to fact check my posts and verify more-than 30 times before i post them. how many of you have that problem? only if you are in my shoes is you will understand my sufferings. i debate and give credit where its due. i have no grudges with anyone.
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I never said that mate. i criticized him in the past. but i rate Conte as a manager. he is a good option. but he has his flaws like any other manager. i was just branded to be the bad guy among Chelsea fans. there is a difference between criticism and dislike.
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Princewhite Yord
Isn’t that what i posted before? it seems that there is one rule for me and other for the rest. throughout my time in posting on TeamTalk i had never had a fair treatment. but i kept still posting. and many of those who has driven me no longer post there. sometimes i have to question was there an agenda on me? and given when i found out there is an alternative site to post your views in Footydebate. some how i get a warning, from some of my fellow Chelsea fans, and the Editor to some extent. i can understand the Editor as he had no information about me and was trying to point me in the right direction. you have to ask whyis all these happening to me? why do people not letting me post what is in my heart? and above all why am i not getting peace to post? that said this honestly i have lost confidence in posting. every-time i have to post i have to fact check it 30-50 times before i post. all of these in the name of not offending other posters who have complained about my posts in the past. at the end of the day some set the rules and some follow them. i had no ill feelings towards anyone. and ask for forgiveness from those that my posts have offended.
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999
Let us call it a day. i know we will never see the same side of the coin when it comes to Mourinho. let us move on.
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Pagan
Let us call it a day. we will never see the coin on the same side.
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Guys i have only stated my opinion. United won 13 out of the first 20 seasons of the Premier league. my belief is that they should be there. even when he lost the league Ferguson was challenging the winners until the last minute. besides that United have the biggest revenue in the world. they can buy whoever they desire and won’t have to sell to balance the books.
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999
Rest assured, i don’t have any agenda here or there. as i stated before i dislike him. however i only said what i had in my heart. now we are debating on the managers behavior remember that is the title of the thread. anyway there is nothing wrong in scrutinizing the manager of Manchester United. its always open for for scrutiny.
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Pagan
They always say beauty is in the beholder’s eye. or you can correct me if i said it wrongly. anyway if we ask the Editor to put a poll on that matter i don’t he will get more-than a few votes. Chelsea under Conte is improving. but i think United under Mourinho isn’t improving. but that is my individual opinion. although there are those that share with me. the only problem i have with Conte is that he falls with his players too easily. but other that he is world-class. Klopp is also world-class. Pochetino is on his way to join that league. then there are the chasing pack, like Eddie Howe, the Huddersfield manage. who are lacking resources but are good enough. i’m a fan of Eddie Howe, he plays enjoyable football.
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Pagan
you are right. but you are also moaning. the only point here is. how is City ahead of United? United is the biggest club in England. and in the top 5 biggest club in the world. but the need a change of strategy, and that has to start from the top. Ferguson was annoying but not that crap. he knew when to start a fight and when to concentrate when to destabilize an opponent or not. my only dislike for Ferguson was that he putting too much pressure on the referees and match officials. but other that he was a world class manager. but the current manager isn’t half of what Ferguson was.
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Maverick1973
I think United is the world’s richest club. which means they can compete for any player in the world. unfortunately both Liverpool and Chelsea to some extent are not in that league. City spend wisely, United didn’t spend wisely. who is to blame? the person who have the final say in the transfers. the reason as to why City is ahead of everybody is because their manager is head and shoulders above the rest. but if United get a better manager they can overtake City. they have massive following, and massive resource.
999
Am i driving a campaign? i don’t think so. i think i have a right to point the reality. you may not agree with me. but both Klopp and Conte are better managers but with tight budgets at their respective clubs. that was my point. i’m not anti Mourinho but i dislike his antics. United a the biggest club in England deserve better than they are getting for their investment. when was the last time United winnig the Europa league or league cup was considered a success?
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I think they will do. with the resources that United has, they can buy their preferred players. Klopp is working his magic at Liverpool. imagine if he can spend £300m every summer? or Conte can spend £300m every summer? United’s financial are bigger than that of City. but Pep is bigger manager than the little man. and that is what is making the difference.
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” If Pep was in charge at United they will be winnig the league, its simple as that”
Jamie Carragher said that. which means that big big manager is at the other side of Manchester. but also Klopp could go and win the league with United, Conte can go and win with them. the little man has run out of excuses._____________________________
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Honestly a player’s career is incomplete without playing for the best which is Barcelona. don’t blame Coutinho for wanting to be on the right-side of history.
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The little man has no class. and will not win the league on current climate and the number of high profile manager we have in the league. he has to go back to Porto if he wants to rediscover what winning league is. there is no point in fighting with a manager who is not winning the league. concentrate on the one that taught you who to play football in your backyard.
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Deserved and one that has been coming for along time now. What does the future hold for our loan boy Zouma?will the next manager fancy him?
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I was alone in that view in the past. Now more and more Chelsea and rival fans have joined the badwagon. And only a quater of United fans are defending him. And i feel vindicated considering how much i was ridiculed when i said he is finished in 2013. Anyway its United’s problem now. And i took great satisfaction from his meltdown ?. Sit back and enjoy as long as he is not involving Chelsea.
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And then Barca won’t get Coutinho either. Also you could safely said a player is worth the length of their co tract. And so far Coutinho has four more years left. Which means Barca have to pay what Liverpool asks or wait until 2022 before they get their man on Bosman.
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No 9, the player is worth what the selling values.
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I personally can’t stand on this classless individual called Mourinho. He has disrupted the beautiful game. And if you want to see how he disruped, just look at the games that he is involved. I can’t remember enjoying those games that he is involved. He is truly Mr. Boring. And this league is better without him. You have to feel for the United fans. After their club spend £300m in the last 2 summers. They are subjected to such boring football and excuse after excuse. For club who has been known for their attacking side of the game. Are forced to master the dark arts of it. Thank God that he is United’s problem now. I can’t see United falling in to the trap that we have fallen in 2015 and giving him 4 years and sacking him months in to his contract, and then has to pay him the remainder of his contract._____________________________
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Luiz was ok considering that he was out injured for one and half month. Regardless of that Luiz isn’t a playmaker he is a defender and we kept a cleansheet. Its that useless Willian, Bakayoko and Batshuayi who failed to earn their wages. It was truly awful that we have our first shot on target after the hour mark. And we are not facing Barcelona or PSG. Its the mighty Norwich City.
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