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Think Utd’s questionable transfer window messed up any chance of Greenwood going on loan, they need him.
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Ed, what’s going on with Rashford at the moment? Seems to be a lot of negativity towards him from Utd fans and some saying this kid Greenwood should start in front of him. What’s gone wrong recently?
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” We gained just 1/6 points in the huge games vs City, and we dropped points against Everton & Man Utd, i.e. the biggest games in our calendar.”
We got 97 points. We can’t win every single match. Who’s to say a point at both Everton and Utd, as you say our main rivials, were not good results? Maybe if we loosened the risk factor a little we may of been hit on the counter and lost the games? Vs City it was very fine margins between a good result and a bad one. Yes we have blown them away before but that doesn’t mean we will every time using the same approach. Vs Napoli we were 10 minutes or so from a good result until their play took a dive and won a penalty. If Mane had done better he would of put Salah in for a goal and possibly won the match, would we of needed a goal-scoring midfielder then? Fine margins…
No one can say for sure what would of happened if we played a certain way or if a certain player had been selected, either way it’s just guess work. All I know is that using a very robust midfield to supplement fast and creative fullbacks and forwards works better than any Liverpool team I’ve ever seen over the course of the season. I don’t understand the calls to change it.
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Nil answering a question with a question doesn’t really answer the question!
Thanks Sean. We all have different views and opinions, the World would be boring without. I like people to expand theirs rationally and in context of the current team/situation.
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Where tactically would he fit? And what message does that send to Ox and Keita?
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Saw a post on the Euro Football thread about our midfield by Mikus but thought best reply here to save myself from the wrath of Nine when us Liverpool fans take over a general football thread (j/k Nine!)
The post mentions a lack of goals from our midfield 3. This seems to be a common talking point amongst LFC fans, usually including a lack of creativity and assists and that we need to buy someone to fill that “void” (sorry Mikus, going slightly off tangent to your post, part of it replies to you post, part of it expands to a more common theme).
My opinion is that we are pretty good in midfield, and that these “problems” only appear in hindsight on the very few occasions we lose or even draw (think most fans expect 100% winning record these days!). But we win with that same laborious midfield a heck of a lot, a record amount of times. So overall what’s the problem? As far as I can see there is not a column in the table that says “goals from midfield”, so if the team is doing well who cares if we score a total of 9 from midfield or whatever.
Some say “if we had a Coutinho type (yes him again sorry!) then we would won instead of draw” but again that is with hindsight. Plus I counter this argument by saying that maybe those draws would actually be defeats. That argument has exactly the same weight as they saying we would of won, as in it’s pure speculation.
We have Keita and OX already at the club that provide something a little different whilst maintaining the overall common work ethic of the midfield group. They’ve both had problems with injury and settling, maybe they will feature more in the future. In their absence last season however we did pretty damn good.
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Barcelona were very lucky last night, if Dortmund scored a couple it would not of been unwarranted. Every time I see Sancho he plays very well.
Both pens in the two English games should not of been awarded. The Chelsea one, well I’m guessing all of us are confused about the handball rule. The Liverpool one the guy dived. He instigated the contact and threw himself to the floor. This type of dive seems to always be successful because technically there is contact, doesn’t seem to matter who made the movement. It’s still cheating in my eyes and one I see way too much these days.
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I had to watch the games on one of those “Sky Conference” things when they show a bit from a game but then interrupt it with a shout of “Tor!” and then jump to that game to see which players are celebrating (or waiting for a VAR check!).
Anyway, the good news for Liverpool is that Genk looked no better than your average pub team, at least defensively. RB Salzburg carved them up through the middle time after time, who themselves didn’t look that good to be honest. Although shout out for Alf Inge Haaland’s son whose hattrick has put him on 17 goals in 9 games for the season!
2-0 not great but by all accounts the performance was better than last year. 99% sure we will qualify.
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Robbo a doubt for tonight so I’d play this:
Adrian
TAA – Matip – VvD – Gomez
Hendo – Fab – Milner
Salah – Bobby – ManeSolid if slightly unspectacular line up. Robbo, if he doesn’t make it, will be missed.
With Origi out I’m pretty sure Brewster will be on the bench tonight. Can see it being another tight game between the two teams.
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Happy birthday for tommorow Nil.
From a LFC point of a view, and no disrespect to City fans on here, but it’s been a pretty good pre-birthday day of football!
Sean absolutely correct. Every team drops points, it’s going to happen to LFC at some point.
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City have rightfully attract plaudits for their fantastic squad depth but in defence they seem very light. Going into the season 3 with only senior centre backs didn’t seem the best idea but then when the best one gets injured the weakness is even more apparent.
Fair play to Norwicj, love their refreshing attitude really hope they stay up. Too many teams set up to try and keep the score against them down but they look to have a go against anyone.
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City as poor as I’ve seen them. Walker looking petulant. Are they missing leadership on the pitch?
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Terrible by VAR. Ok can understand maybe the ref didn’t see it properly but that was a clear and obvious mistake. If it’s because they dont want to show up their mates mistakes by overturning the refs decision we may as well go back to the pre-Var days.
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Technical and/or physical coaching? No.
Tactical coaching? Most defiantly yes. Most important aspect in top level football once a certain level of ability is already achieved.
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Or asks the question what the heck was the manager doing that they couldn’t get the team playing we all think it could of.
Properly managed that team could of been as dominate as the great Spain team of Xavi and Iniesta. Or damn close to it.
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Haha possibly the most debated debate in the history of debating (within the English football game at least!).
Gerrard was the best physically, Scholes technically and Lampard intelligently. So a 3-way draw!
When you look back at the team England did have it is a wonder how they didn’t win tournaments.
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It’s a hypothetical question Nil, no one has mentioned anything about validating an existence!
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“England’s current ability would remain as it is.”
So no getting better, I’m asking to see where people rate the current England team or International football in general against our domestic league teams.
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Purely hypothetical and a bit daft question,if England played in the premier league where do people think they’d come? Assuming England players would just be cloned if they played against their parent team and that England’s current ability would remain as it is.
I would say bottom half. This isn’t saying they they have bad players, far from it, but generally I feel international football is a lower level than domestic. This is due to players that rarely play together having to maybe adapt to a new system so it all looks a bit disjointed. Unless it’s that great Spanish team from a few years back that had players from 2 teams that played in a similar way.
International football just doesn’t do it for me. The only skill or decent play seems to be individual and generally it all looks a bit disjointed. Or it could be that I’m originally from N Ireland and so usually have no vested interest in the competitions!
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Exactly right Sean, they have the easiest group they probably could of got and will walk it. The fans expectations will be whipped into a frenzy by the tabloids with promise that In-ger-Land will be bringing football home whilst limping meekly out of the tournament when faced with any reasonably decent team.
Same thing every time…
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