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One of the funniest rumours is Liverpool will bid for Koulibaly. The rumour itself isn’t that funny, what’s funny is the thought of everyone else trying to score against a K2 and VvD partnership with Alisson behind them!
Probably best to file this one in the probably wont happen category.
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From what I read there are now only 3 options:
1) Football returns in June behind closed doors. Neutral venues will unlikely be an option as a few clubs have objected (can’t really blame them).
2) Positions awarded on sporting merit using PPG. This would mean Liverpool Champions (with a massive asterix we will wear with pride!), top 4 as it is and bottom 3 as it is and relegated. I imagine Villa are against this.
3) Positions awarded on sporting merit using PPG weighted for home and away performances. This is where it gets interesting as Bournemouth and West Ham would swap and the Hammers would go down.
Apparently null and void is not an option (sorry Adlab) and neither is relegation exemption.
I personally think option 1 will happen. No it’s not an ideal situation but society and life must start to make steps back to normality and learn to live with the virus.
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Nine that is just typical british press sensationalism. A small handful of towns have reintroduced a degree of lockdown but certainly not Germany as a whole. My city, the largest in the most populous state, has all the shops now open and even the gyms reopened this week.
The rate has been around 1.07 as you stated but it’s when it gets to 1.2 or 1.3 for 3 days or so then it could be a problem.
Papers need to sell. Writing that germany which is one of the most successful countries fighting corona is now apparently failing is probably a story some people want to read. But its BS. Dont believe everything you read.
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Oz, hear what you’re saying and can understand the loss of enthusiasm for the sport. Hope you get it back at some point, but in the meantime enjoy the surf. Have to admit if I had the Australian coast as my playground I would find getting over footie easier!
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Adlab none of the major leagues have mentioned voiding. If you do then no one qualifies for Europe next year, UEFA have already stated this. No one would get any prize money either.
The only options are play out the league or cancel it. Cancelling it has a number of options on how to finalise the standings. Belgium declared a winner, France it seems also with 2 up and 2 down, Netherlands said no winner and no promotion or relegation. Very different to voiding. Euro qualification and prize money as per the final standings (either PPG or as it is).
I’m not very confident the PL will start again but I am sure if it’s cancelled it will declare LFC as the winner and probably relegate and promote 2 (very harsh on Villa who have a game in hand).
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Congratulations to PSG. Although I despise the team to be so far ahead they are worthy champions.
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I am not saying to give football any priority, I’m saying you need to start making steps to get on the road to normal life. I’ve said I understand the uk is not in a good way and you’re not ready for that yet but you as a population you need to start thinking more positively. And that is about every aspect of life, not sorely football. I mention football as this is a football forum.
I’m not going to preach how any individual should live their life just my opinion on you as a nation. From what I’ve read the powers that be also understand the need to get back to some sort of normality as soon as possible. You will suffer severely if you dont. Unemployment, recession, and mental health issues will be on a level never seen before.
Your government has a plan yes but it seems many of you has a plan to sit about and feel sorry for yourselves or sending love and prayers to the families very old famous people that have died.
I have views on this whole situation that many on here will find inappropriate so perhaps it’s best I drop out for a while. My last word is yes Corona is terrible and I appreciate that families are suffering but to me there are far worse humanitarian disasters happening elsewhere in the world that get hardly any coverage. And that is far more terrible.
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I don’t pay attention to infection rates, it’s more a indication of how much testing is happening. More important is the death rate. Once that rate starts to decline then countries will ease up the restrictions. They have to, for the state of the economy and the state of their people. Full lock down over a long period of time will do more harm then the virus.
Football is not the most important thing right now but that doesn’t mean you have to say let’s not even think about it till this situation passes. As I’ve said before life goes on in every aspect, and that includes things that we enjoy (and is also a multi-million pound industry) like football. I understand that the UK is suffering more than most at the moment but I am talking about in a few weeks time if hopefully the death rate shows a significant decline.
If the UK cannot put together a solution by that time to play games then I think you as a country will have major issues with life in general. Over here in DE they seem to have a solution for football to start on the 9th May. Teams resumed restricted training a week or two ago.Small shops are now open again, as are parks, ice cream stalls etc and life is starting to return to normal. I’ve just been out on a bike ride to the Bay Area and back (tidy little stadium) and there’s thousands out enjoying the sun. The only negative thing over here is that as of tomorrow we must wear a face mask on public transport and in supermarkets.
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Pagan sounds like you’re going from one extreme to the other, no football at all or back to how it was. Restrictions will part of our lives for a while now but they need to be relaxed so life can gradually return to normal.
The Bundesliga will start again in think in 2 or 3 weeks. Will be interesting to see how its managed.
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Nine, that’s not what’s being said, they are still looking at restarting. Whilst its tragic for those that have lost someone close, life does inevitably move on and without wanting to cause offense to anyone it really has to. Football and sport in general are important parts of our lives.
I’ve read many times on here that people cant even think about football whilst so much despair and pain is being caused every day. I disagree and I’ll admit that might not sit well with people on here but we must look at returning to normality as quickly as possible. Be it either football, work, holidays or whatever. If you dont then the effects of coronavirus will be far longer lasting.
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Voiding will not happen. It would mean teams miss out on prize money and no one qualifies for the European competitions.
The preferred choice is to play out and finish the season but failing that abandon the league. If the latter is necessary then the big decisions are what to do for final placements. My guess is by points per game for league postion with Liverpool as champions but with no relegation. Maybe Leeds and WBA go up for a larger league next season. This would ensure no massive law suits. Voiding certainly would.
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I dont think awarding a championship and relegation are mutually exclusive to be honest. But you’re right it seems a clever call by the Dutch FA if it goes ahead. If they they awarded Ajax the title AZ would kick up a huge stink. If they relegated some teams they too would. By doing it the way they have only a team in the second division upset which is probably the best situation they could make bar playing the remaining games. I’m guessing that has been judged as a no go.
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The Dutch league has been abandoned with current positions counting as their final positions, with no champions and no relegation. This is very different to voiding which UEFA have already said would result in no European places next season. This actually makes sense to me but I cannot see it being replicated in its entirety for the Premier League. The major difference is that the Eredivisie has AZ and Ajax top on the same points, Ajax shading it with the goal difference. So going down the points per game would not separate them. Also abandoning the league with the title destination so close would surely cause too many problems. No winners but UEFA spots taken and prize money distributed by current standings and is the safest option.
I think they didn’t want to relegate anyone as again this could open up a lot of problems. This I can see happening in the Premier League for the same reason as apart from Norwich it’s very close down there. I cannot see anything other than Liverpool being declared champions as they are so far ahead. What will happen to promotion to the Premier League is anyone’s guess but I suspect a 22 team league next season. In the Netherlands, the Dutch second division is led by 14 points by a team called Camburr and they will not gain promotion. Apparently they are pretty miffed at the decision.
Here in DE it looks like the Bundesliga will start again next month. The big difference is that Germany is way ahead of the UK in the fight against Coronavirus. This week small shops have opened again and to be life is almost back to normal. I can’t see this as an option for the Premier League for another couple of months.
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“No need to get all Arsenal about it threeps even on here the baulk of the opinion Liverpool posters aside is that the season can’t be carried over indefinitely!!!”
Then reply to the quote I posted earlier stating the FA, EPL and PL joint statement. Funny how that post gets ignored. To quote Mak, sometimes I wonder why I come on here…
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Cut off point: no
Contracts: Extend them. Once a restart date is decided a finish date is then fixed and contracts extended to then. Transfer window will need adjusting but that will most likely need adjusting anyway as players could still be in lock down by the end of August (or whenever the windows closes).
“And I’m not surprised, having just looked at the table, that the Puppy is happy for it to all be “frozen” and awarded as is…”
During my recent Google search I came across a Birmingham based survey. Would you believe it that the vast majority of WBA fans want the season to played to a finish whenever that may be whilst the Wolves fans want it to end now and positions as they are to be valid, probably knowing the Sheff Utd have a game in hand and can overtake them. Strange we get such different results based on what team the group surveyed supports!
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Interesting Nine, a very quick Google search got me a YouGov survey that is very contradiction to yours. Out in the lead with 39% is the “lets finish the season whenever” option. And it’s 2026 votes trumps your measly 1486!
Stats like this can be found and manipulated in many ways to fulfill our own agenda, I wouldn’t go around stating what you found as if fact, just opinion.
And Mav, the Avatar is Guybrush Threepwood, and I believe he is pointing at something.
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“From the fans perspective I don’t think there is any appetite bar possibly the Liverpool fans to play this season out no matter what even if it is in December.”
Nine you’ve mentioned this a lot but I have a sneaky suspicion this is just your own opinion and have nothing to back it up.
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Chucky, if there is no time available to finish this season the we can probably assume that things have got even worse and that next season won’t happen either. The virus doesn’t just adhere to the 2019-2020 football calendar!
If the season doesn’t finish then the whole integrity of the game will have to be questioned. Extending the season indefinitely is not ideal but the lesser of two evils compared to voiding when you consider your arguments that the Euros might need to be moved again or there may be a bit of fixture congestion.
And it wasn’t me that made the previous quote, as I said it was the powers that be. And not one mention of Liverpool or the word unfair.
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If you void the season now it will cause so many problems, sponsors, TV money, TV subscriptions, player season bonuses, final table prize money, European qualification… the list goes on and on. The whole integrity of the game comes into question.
There is no longer anything in the rules that state the season must end by a certain date:
“A joint statement read: “The FA, Premier League, EFL and women’s professional game, together with the PFA and LMA, understand we are in unprecedented times and our thoughts are with everyone affected by COVID-19.
“We’re united in our commitment to finding ways of resuming the 2019-20 football season and ensuring all domestic and European club league and cup matches are played as soon as it is safe and possible to do so.
“We’ve collectively supported UEFA in postponing EURO 2020 to create space in the calendar to ensure domestic and European club league and cup matches have an increased opportunity to be played and, in doing so, maintain the integrity of each competition.
“The FA’s Rules and Regulations state that “the season shall terminate not later than the 1 June” and “each competition shall, within the limit laid down by The FA, determine the length of its own playing season”.
“However, our Board has agreed for this limit to be extended indefinitely for the 2019-20 season in relation to professional football. Additionally, we’ve collectively agreed that the professional game in England will be further postponed until no earlier than Thursday 30 April.”
Joint statement from FA, EFL and PL.
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Mav I’ve been following the comments and it’s been very interesting. I agree that economies will soon become an issue and whilst no one wants to hear about people dying a plan needs to be put in place so that life can carry on.
I really dislike Trump he did say that an American recession will claim far more lives than the virus will and whilst he was probably being ignorant at the time he has a point.
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