[steveosnakeeye]

You can’t blame the city players
Who the hell would want to play for the spuds 🤣

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Just needed an Arsenal lad to pep it up a bit 🤣😁

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I’m probably muddying the waters 999
I just think my pessimistic view is actually more a realistic view but the most frustrating thing is we shouldn’t

We should as fans with this team and squad at least feel confident as any other top nation does not to say they will win but very much could by being a good team and showing it on the pitch

That’s my only beef with Southgate as I think he is holding back our potential during a time we have a decent squad to step up a bit

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999 I wouldn’t want to but then Arsenal aren’t anywhere near city as a team or squad and we would likely get beat by the first good team we play unless we get a couple of fluky wins like we did against city and Chelsea the last time we won
We won I’m happy but no one could say we deserve it or played well we played like small team abs defended with our lives and took our few chances

England could do that of course but the point is people on here are saying England are much better national than Arsenal are domestically

I’m na saying they should be but are not
Apples and oranges

It’s not the winning or losing tho winning is preferable it’s the being able to win and looking like we could or should win rather than what we currently get

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I honestly don’t think others are tho Mike
I think the Dutch Italians Germans and French and Portuguese and indeed many of the smaller nations by virtue of being small have settled squads and know there style of play well
I don’t think we do personally it’s neither one nor the other
We don’t concede many and that’s to be commended but then we rarely look like we are really actually trying to win
The only time we do if ever is when it’s all on the line abs by then it’s to late

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Ah so we should now want to play easy teams as we are not ready for the tournament and developing? I thought we were or should be ready by now you’re meant to peak at the finals unless in some kind of transition phase
But we have a squad of players we’re the cheapest is about £40m up £150 m yet to afraid to play a decent team
Surely you can’t have it both ways we are either good enough or not
No point saying we got to the semis if we only play smaller nations and barely scrape by those 😁

For all my doom and gloom seems we are all not so far apart after all 😁

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Ed if it were to happen now …..🤣

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How curious so many want to finish 2nd or third to get an “easy team” in the next round abs not want to face a top team… with 7 points we would surely be a match for any team? It’s like people want another World Cup run of easy fodder so we can get “a bit further” before we inevitably go out to a genuine top team 🤔
Which will of course keep Gareth’s stock high 😁😁😁

Nancy shame on Finland so close I thought the might be the new Iceland 😉

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Great game yesterday if only all matches could be like that

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Spot in Sean as an Irishman you can see without being caught up

I agree the team wasn’t bad but either what they asked to do or how they play is wrong or just about every player needs to take a long look at themselves

How many of that 11 would be valued £80 m + ?

Look at whales 2 world class and they compliment each other

Much more a team it’s bizarre

I don’t really have the answers so won’t pretend I do it’s just so frustrating abs the exact same every tournament

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I agree with Kane but don’t see rashy as much of an improvement? We need a style of play abs to play players in their best positions even if it means a big name drops out

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999 but he doesn’t do that for England like Kane doesn’t and many others ? Is he being played differently to his strengths? I don’t think foden is being played in his best position
We are also missing a midfielder with skill to link the play
To sideways and slow

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I think you were right first time Brian … lousy Steve 🤣🤣🤣

I’d love us to smash a team and by that I mean play very well even if it’s just a 2-0 win

The reason I get so annoyed is it the players are capable but don’t

You are right Brian in leaders and often too many individual play not team play m
Individuals brilliant but average as a team

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And I do enjoy you pulling me up Ed tho we both know it’s like shooting fish in a barrel to you and you will run rings around me 🤣

Keep at it good sir it’s what keeps the site lively and I don’t take it personally in any bar sense but my certain brand of negativity seems to hit you more than others 🤣🤣

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I honestly believe they Ed
I don’t see it as extreme especially after watching last nights display
I am however very negative but in my defence I’ve been watching Arsenal 🤣🤣
I’m
Negative yes but honestly I don’t want to be I just refuse to make excuses so I can feel less negative I’d rather be made to feel happy by what should be a very good team actually playing to their potential and making me!

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Maybe we could scrape our way to a tournament win but like many club fans we don’t just want to win we want to deserve to win by playing well
I didn’t think we looked like losing either to be fair but I really hope this squad steps up
You hear them talk and they say the right things but then don’t do a thing they have talked about when they step on the pitch it’s baffling to me personally
As I mentioned Southgate is very likeable and talks very well but then you see a display like last night just like under every other manager we have
We just can’t seem to find that key and players and style of play that most top teams develop that works for them
I would love to be shut up by the team doing what I think they are capable of but never deliver

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You say that Ed but if anyone of those you mention play us they will win at a canter
You look at our squad and they should on paper be so much better
Or is it as has been said that most of our players are on pedestals and not haps as good as we think when not surrounded by world class foreign players ?
If you think I’m being harsh and you do tend to pull me up every time Ed I notice whilst other negative comments slip by unchallenged it’s because I want more from a squad I believe could and should offer more
Last night was so poor and a hell of an anticlimax
Just my half glass empty view 😁

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Saying we have 4 points isn’t enough you have to look at their performances and both were average or bad
Totally unbalanced lost the midfield no cutting edge
Kane shouldn’t start at the moment
Take Foden off as our best player and leave Stirling?
It was like watching Arsenal lots of sideways passing no directness and lots of unforced errors
If and it’s still a big if for me that we progress we will comfortably lose against the first semi decent side we face unless there are some big changes

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Most say for all my pessimistic views on England and Southgate I saw his interview the other day and he does speak very well and a likeable fella

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That was a really bad penalty

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