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Sean, agree mate. Ten Hag was in high stock when he was at Ajax. And rightly so IMO.
I don’t want him sacked. Who else should United get in? Even Klopp and Guardiola would need time with that bunch of overpaid underachievers.
ETH needs time. You might argue that the Brighton manager has been in charge of his team shorter than Ten Hag has been of his, but Ten Hag’s job is just about the biggest reconstructionjob in football._____________________________
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Mikus:
I agree that ownership shouldn’t be on the players’ mind, but perhaps it is. If new owners arrive, they’ll be selling and buying. IMO opinion n it should be a motivation factor. Play well, prove you’re worth a place in the squad.
I think United are suffering from years of changing managers with different styles and the squad reflects that.
And in general we’ve been buying unsmart. Big names seem to have been more important than anything else. That Zlatan Ibrahimovic is perhaps the best transfer we did post SAF is mindnumbing._____________________________
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And it would be good if Rashford every once in while looked up and crossed the ball instead of always trying to do it all on his own.
He looked like he thought he was alone on the pitch for much of the game._____________________________
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Cheers Alfie, it was a great day. Good experience going to OT, and I quite like Manchester as a city too.
As for the game we should have capitalized on a good start, but we didn’t. For me we lack characters and real leaders. To me it looked like noone pushed their chest forward and drove the team forward when it got difficult.
United just doesn’t look like a team with no spirit and leaders._____________________________
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I was at the game today against Brighton.
First time at OT.I think United were best for the first 10 minutes. Then they just fell apart. Brighton were the better team, tearing United at least a good few new arseholes.
HΓΈjlund was definitly United’s best player, but he didn’t get much support. I have no idea why he was taken off.McT, Eriksen and Casemiro are just not a unit. Completely disjointed. As is the entire team.
ETH is a dead man walking I’m sure. The team almost looked like they downed tools. Hannibal looked ok when he came on.
We’ll not get anywhere near top 4 this season._____________________________
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I don’t post on these pages very often anymore, but I do read them on a daily basis.
If you were to teach someone about online behaviour, then 999 is the example to point to.
I didn’t always agree with him, but he was always fair, polite and reasonable.
And clearly just plain and simple a good human being.
That’s the most important thing.RIP 999
All the best to your family in these difficult times._____________________________
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Sean:
Mate, I couldn’t support a team/club owned by a dictatorship. IMO it’s just wrong to buy a jersey that puts money in the pockets of dictators and fundamentalists. To support a state owned club is to indirectly support that state. Manchester City, PSG, Newcastle are all about sportswashing. Nothing else.
If United are bought by the Saudis, then I’ll quit supporting them. No doubt about it.I hope it won’t happen. Especially since I was planning to take my son to a game next season.
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Hi Mav and Banjo, it’s been a while, all good here. I hope all is well with you guys as well π
I actually read these pages on a regularly basis, but for some reason I don’t get around to posting a lot.
I’ve become a bit of an ABC – Anyone But City. I can’t stand these dictatorstate owned clubs winning it all year after year.
I actually found myself happy about Liverpool winning a few seasons back. And disappointed Arsenal bottled it this season. And I’m supposed to be a United fan. Go figure.I’m sure in a few seasons the PL will be a fancy version of the Scottish league. UAE and Saudi Arabia fighting it out for first spot while the sheiks bask in the glory of their PL based PR branches of their absolute monarchies.
No real competition or anything. And sod human rights, democracy, stuff like that. Sports and politics shouldn’t be mixed, right?_____________________________
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I always loved English football, but clubs like Manchester City and now Newcastle are poison to football.
They are owned by states who violate human rights. States who in essence despise democracy.
These clubs are nothing more than the Pr branch of dictatorships and every time they win a title and people celebrate it is a victory to the sheiks because it takes away attention from what they really are.Sad really.
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The World Cup isn’t far away, and England has a pretty young team with lots of potential. Is Walker at 31-32 the oldest?
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Sorry, England and England fans. I really thought England would run Italy over after Shaw’s goal. Italy were visibly shaken after that start.
Italy fought back and England allowed them to.
It’s always a lottery when it comes to penalties. I feel sorry for the Young English lads especially 19 year old Saka. He should never have to stand with that responsibility and pressure. Why didn’t some of the senior players step up? Sterling? Stones?
And Southgate? Perhaps he was too defensive, and so penalties truly is his fate._____________________________
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I just liked my own post by accident. Any way to remove that? π
Nil, no argument that England were the better team on the night and they did deserve it.
It’s probably still discussed because Sterling dived and because of the time it was given.
Many pundits (who thenselves are former players), managers and former top refs have said it wasn’t a penalty. Of course Sterling was surrounded by Danish defenders trying to disrupt him. That’s what defenders do. But Sterling left his leg hanging and contact was varely there. Sterling played a bigger part in that penalty being given than the defenders. He seeked the penalty more than anything.
IMO a shame that he did it. He has played a very good tournament and I think England would have won regardless of the penalty. If it had not been given I’m sure England would have kept up the pressure and I doubt we could have kept England at bay one man down and most players dead tired. Smart move by Sterling, but I think you have to be English to like it ππI’m looking forward to the final. It’s the two teams who have been the best overall, IMO. I’d give the edge to England because of the game being played in London and because Kane hit form. England have more firepower as I see it, but this Italy team is hard to break down. Should be a good game!
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Congratulations to England on getting through to the final.
I’m not overly dissappointed, even if getting there ourselves would have been fantastic. But if anyone had said the word semifinal before the tournament, I’d have taken it gladly. Especially after the incident with Eriksen.I think England played better than us in the second half and during the entire extra time, so based on that England deserved it.
Of course Raheem Sterling dived. It wasn’t a penalty. Maybe we shouldn’t have had the freekick that Damsgaard scored on. But as far as gifts from the ref goes, a penalty is a heck of a lot of a bigger gift. But no matter what England did enough to earn their place in the final. No argument there.
Something I will say is that I found it to be very poor taste that the English fans booed during our national anthem. That happened against the Germans as well. I hope that doesn’t happen in the final against Italy. That is just disrespectful and shouldn’t happen.
And the laser pen in Schmeichel’s face as the penalty was about to be taken? What an absolute idiot you must be to do that.All that being said, England was the better team on this occasion, I think we did well to reach the semis, so all good and best of luck in the final.
I think you have a great chance of winning it._____________________________
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Well done to Chelsea. They were clearly the better team against Real, and they deserve their place in the final.
What a job Tuchel has done turning this around at Chelsea. I read somewhere that Chelsea have 19 clean sheets in 24 games after his arrival. If that’s the actual stats, then it’s amazing.
Next season Chelsea must be one of the clear favourites for the PL title. They look solid all over the pitch. Werner will get more goals next season, I’m sure, now that he has a season under his belt.
As for the CL final, here’s hoping for Chelsea.
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999, I was too harsh in my first post. I stand by my point, but I should have chosen my words far better than what I did.
And huge credit to the Chelsea fans for standing their ground and saying no to the SL.
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999, I’m a member of the fanclub of my local club over here. So is my son. My own father took me to games.
But if by some miracle my club over night became big enough to be considered in the same breath as the Uniteds and Real Madrids and wanted to be a part of the SL, then it would be over with that love story. So don’t think I’m someone that just knows football from what I can see from my armchair. United is my second club (And that’s it. There’s no third)The Super League is just plain wrong. Florentino Perez now even speaks of cutting games shorter to make the game more appealing to young viewers.
This idea is only about pure greed and creating a monopoly that screws every other club outside of the chosen few from premier league to grass root level.
That’s why this goes beyond the “through thick and thin” and that’s why I feel it’s a tired old phrase in this connection. I’m sorry if it offended you, but I really think that in a case like this there is no middle ground. You’re either with it or against it. If you keep going to games and buying the shirt, then you’ve made your choice.And like Chucky I have no affinity with any other English club, so I guess I’d be supporting the team that plays the most exciting kind of football from my POW.
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If you’re a proper fan, you can’t support a club that is one of the driving forces behind this crap.
I’ve lost so much for United because of this. Simply a disgusting idea. If it goes through, I’m done with United and have nothing but disgust for the other clubs taking part in this.
I can’t understand how you can hide behind a tired old phrase like “support your club in thick and thin” in a case like this. If you support United or Chelsea and say that, then it’s only through thick then, isn’t it?
Close the gate behind you and make believe you’re a real supporter. Tell that to the clubs left behind and all the grass root level clubs out there.What Gary Neville said was spot on. Relegate the lot of them.
But which other club to get behind? I don’t know.. It really doesn’t matter to me.
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Mak, we missed a trick when Ancelotti was available. I wouldn’t mind Poch though. Or Nagelsmann from Leipzig.
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Agreed, ed. But United also have the squad with the lowest average age. When you have many younger players, you have to expect a team that blows hot and cold.
But it shouldn’t hide the fact that OGS is very far from being on the same level as Klopp or Ancelotti. Or that United need some real leaders in the squad.
Take the 1999 team. Basically any player could have been captain. Today we have too many players that will shit themselves because they can’t decide wether or not to go to the toilet. You can’t expect to go very far with players who can’t take responsibility.
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Adlab, you’re right. It is complex, and certainly the US isn’t a perfect country.
But I think it’s pretty clear these oil states like the UAE buy clubs and use them for “sportwashing” in order to let a brighter light shine on their regimes. A real shame.
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