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Best Cup comp in the world for me.For the simple fact anyone can get drawn against anybody.None of that seeded teams nonsense.

Looking forward to it 🙂

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Cheers Lucky.Get him snapped up 🙂

What’s going on re Mason Mount’s form? What’s he been like for Chelsea this season?

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What a top pro.Fly high Luca

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Re Nine et al

Good effort from Chelsea on another day they could have got something from that game.

Indeed Nine.The old tale a game of two halves.That tackle from Stones saved a certain goal
for Clelsea.I thought your No 20 was outstanding.Driving forward from midfield.It
was almost Lampardesque from days gone by.

Be interesting to see what two teams are selected for the FA Cup game on sunday?

Big win for City I think they may begin to reel Arsenal in now.

Hopefully we can go on a run now.Some really big games coming up over the next few months for us

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Salient points Ed.I suppose it’s about getting the balance right.

Looking forward to see how Chelsea’s model runs under the new owners.Roman’s hire & fire policy worked a treat for Chelsea during his tenure by the amout of silverware Chelsea won.I’d like to think Potter will be given at least a minimum of 2-3 seasons to get his philosophy/ideas across?

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Sean re

Ed, I’d give the job to Duncan Ferguson.

With his no 2 Rob Walton (I wonder what happened to him ? absolute fruit cake)

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Nine Ed et al.Has Lampard actually been sacked then ?

The papers are part of the problem for me nowadays.Speculation.Speculation.Clickbait etc 🙁
Plus all the sheep who follow social media (espcially twitter) is actually worse imho.

I’ve got talksport on right now and the presenters are talking about Nathan Jones getting the sack
after four losses.Loads of fans rang in last night saying he needs to be sacked.No doubt some of the same fans who wanted Hasenhuttl gone.Madness!! Be careful what you wish for

Klopp’s the longest serving manager in the Premier league (7 years last oct 22) next I think Pep
(6 years last june 22) When you think about the amount of time that Fergie & Wenger spent at they’re respective clubs.How long would they last nowadays if they were just starting out?

The problem with this sacking culture we have is the we have no up and coming managers in the system.Potter being the only one I can think of atm.Whenever any prem team pull the trigger it’s the same old names being touted Allardyce etc.

I can’t believe Alan Curbishley never got another prem job after the miracles he did.

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100% agree Nike.All social media nowadays is awash with sacking managers after one or two defeats.

Honourable shoutouts to Mark Chappers Chapman on MOTD2 and Pablo Zabbaleta at the world cup
for these in my earlier msg.

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So Threeps.Similar to when Liverpool were languishing in the old second division and Littlewoods
came in with plenty of cash at the time.Appointed Shankley and the rest is history

In 1975 (or poss 73) Liverpool and City had both won the same amount of trophies in their history

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Man City have basically brought in the dream team that helped create Barcelona’s success. Ferran Soriano, Txiki Begiristain & Pep Guardiola. It wasn’t rocket science in that sense. The risk for City is when Pep does leave, will the others follow?

All of our teams down to under nines are coached the same way Mikus
PG’s legacy will be around a long while after he’s gone.I can see him
maybe in a DoF role after he’s tried international football?

I hope Vinnie keeps up his good start to management at Burnley.I would
love to see him in the hot seat if he continues to progress.

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Some excellent points Ed 🙂

My reply to these

PPT, whilst you could say Liverpool were lucky to get that for Coutinho which massively skews their net spend, you could say the Haaland transfer was equally lucky. But for his release clause, what would he have cost? £200mil?

I would hope that City wouldn’t go anywhere near that figure.We didn’t have a centre forward for two years earlier.So we could of gone for him then maybe? Our staff were probably tipped off about the clause for £50M possibly

Utd are going to continue to struggle because, while I think we’ve got the coach right, I think we’re still massively lacking in the second point above (structure) hence why the fans are so eager now for the ownership of the club to change hands as we’ve been criminally mismanaged for years. Fans pointing to net spend are completely missing the point. We’re just throwing good money after bad. We won’t compete until we get owners who genuinely care about the club.

The thing that amazes me about all this is Fergie has to take some of the blame for this.His greed over a race horse (Rock of Gibraltar) forced the then United owners to sell to the Glazers

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Can I be the Arsenal that points out MoneyCity have only got away with their flagrant breaking of the rules due to a combintation of clever lawyers and technicalities… and it should also be mentioned it was only UEFA that have cleared them for European compition and they are still under “investigation” from the FA (although when you have unlimited funds and a desire to piss all over the rules, I’m sure that “invetigation” will be continually delayed as it currently is)…

Money City basically cheated the rules as their owners were depserate for the good will (which unfortuantely only comes from the blue half of Manchester) and we all know it. We’ve all read the e-mails!

Banjo.You’ve obviosley didn’t read or understand the report when it came out

CAS declared that anything that happened prior to 2014 was time-barred but not anything after. So they could examine the sponsorship revenues that were paid after 2014 and found those were properly paid and weren’t disguised equity funding.

That clearly implies that had the other payments not been time-barred, they would also have been found to be properly paid.

Therefore anyone claiming MCFC got off “on a technicality” is completely wrong.

Also regarding the e-mails.They were thrown out as fakes.

If the Premier league had anything on City they would of charged us by know

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Sean.You didn’t answer my original questions

I’m told our revenues are fairly
similar.So why can’t John Henry & co put it back into the team ?
It’s probably going in their own pockets instead?

Our owner doesn’t take a penny out.Yours do

Paul why are you going back just 5 years? Are you seriously comparing man cities spending to liverpools?

Sean the facts are Liverpool have spent more in the last five years net then City
have.So you HAVE been competing.It’s a myth to say you haven’t been.

If you want to compair value for money.How much have Liverpool spent since the premier league
started to win a league title?

Even though you were part of the sky top four coining it in with european money pretty much every year from 1992 till 2008 along with United Arsenal Chelsea

Our owners had to invest massively in 2008 before the above clubs tried to move the goalposts with
a new version of FFP.Plus the prices back then.In 2002 Rio Ferdinand cost United around £25-30M
How much would he of cost in 2019 easily £120M ? when united signed Harry Maguire for £85M big ones

Liverpool were lucky that Barca sold Neymar for £200M.Hence getting nearly £150 for Coutinho.He wasn’t worth even a third of that imo

Sean how do you explain the fact that United have spent more money than anyone else in the last 10 years and are still in a mess ? (Getting better nowadays Ed)

It’s easy to answer really.We’ve got Pep.He’s a genius.To win two league titles without a recognised striker against a top top Liverpool side was immense.

I have no doubt when he leaves we’ll never see the amount of success again.Yes we’ve spent money.But anyone who’s ever been champions has (maybe except Leics in moderation)

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True 🙁 I doubt it’ll happen in january though?

I wonder if we’re going to see anyother big movers in January?

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“Yeah, enjoyed Amazon’s coverage, refreshing, but now back to good old Sky Sports hehehe”

Likewise Nike.I’d be happy if Amazon bought the whole lot.
I liked the interview with both managers on the pitch before the game 🙂

Sky has come to it’s end of life as far as I’m concerned.They’re reporters are
more concerned with stoking the flames before the game(espeically before our games
against livarpool)

Also the after match interviews are pure clickbait.Trying to get the manager in trouble if
there’s been a contested decision during the game

Special mentions for Guy Mowbray,Peter Drury & Jon Champion who imho are at the top of their game.Also Ally Macoist & Nedum Onuha probably the better pundits.

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Nine ; Re

Spot on buddie Benfica were smarter than anyone signing Fernandez for £12m in the Summer whilst anyone who wants him now will have to pay his buy out clause of £105m.

I don’t know if it’s common knowledge or not?

We could of bought him along with Alvarez last january for £40M
But to be fair I couldn’t see him starting over Rodri.Most underated
player for us imho.

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If Klopp wasn’t supported he would walk

I think fans want to see us spend like city and utd which is not realistic.

First off Sean.I can only speak for my club.I’m told our revenues are fairly
similar.So why can’t John Henry & co put it back into the team ?
It’s probably going in their own pockets instead?

Klopp spouts off in the press about not being able to compete with City (Newcastle & PSG)
When if you checkout the excellent Swissramble www it confirms not only has
he had your boys competing in the last five years.You’ve got a higher net spend
over the last five years.

One of my mates who’s a big Liverpool fan tells me Klopp wanted more control over
transfers that’s why the DoF leaving? Only hearsay mind

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Good morning Sean et al
re : He is certainly not one our biggest problems at the minute .

What do you consider these to be ?

My take from the outside looking in

Player burnout.Most of the players have played a
lot of games over the last 5 years

If you want to look at individuals

Keita – Not good enough for Liverpool anymore

Oxlade – Not good enough for Liverpool anymore

Milner- – Not good enough for Liverpool anymore

Fabinho.His form has dropped of a cliff this season especially

VVD bang average since he came back.Obviously it’ll take time
to recover after such a bad injury

You have been unlucky with injuries granted.I agree with you that
Liverpool needs at least two world class midfielders asap to get
up there again.

Just my thoughts chum

Merry Xmas & HNY to all

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Thanks for the replies Ed & Nine.Best ever Chelsea player I’ve had the pleasure of watching in my 42 years as a season ticket holder is Zola by a country mile.Right up there with my fave ever David Silva 🙂

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Sean.Can you add context to the KdB comment ? I agree if your compairing his club form to
his world cup performances.But you need to take into account the squad he’s in

How many of the ones below would you have in Liverpool’s first team (or even squad?

I’d only take Trossard and punt’s on Doku & Onana for our matchday squad

The Ed also touched on a big part of the problem earlier.Martinez being out of his depth

Edin Hazard has been shocking since he left Chelsea.I know he’s been injured a fair bit though
Same for Lukaku.He’s turned into shit since Chelsea bought him

Nine “How the hell did Chelsea get £85M for Hazard when he only had 12 months left
on his contract”?

Belgium 2022 World Cup Squad

Position Player Club Age Caps

Goalkeeper Thibaut Courtois Real Madrid (SPA) 30 96
Goalkeeper Simon Mignolet Club Brugge (BEL) 34 35
Goalkeeper Koen Casteels Wolfsburg (GER) 30 4

Defender Toby Alderweireld Royal Antwerp (BEL) 33 123
Defender Arthur Theate Stade Rennes (FRA) 22 3
Defender Wout Faes Leicester City (ENG) 24 1
Defender Jan Vertonghen Anderlecht (BEL) 35 141
Defender Thomas Meunier Borussia Dortmund (GER) 31 58
Defender Timothy Castagne Leicester City (ENG) 26 25
Defender Zeno Debast Anderlecht (BEL) 18 2

Midfield Kevin De Bruyne Man City (ENG) 31 93
Midfield Hans Vanaken Club Brugge (BEL) 30 22
Midfield Youri Tielemans Leicester City (ENG) 54 5
Midfield Leander Dendoncker Aston Villa (ENG) 27 29
Midfield Amadou Onana Everton (ENG) 21 2
Midfield Yannick Carrasco Atletico Madrid (SPA) 29 59
Midfield Axel Witsel Atletico Madrid (SPA) 33 126
Midfield Charles de Ketelaere AC Milan (ITA) 21 10
Midfield Leandro Trossard Brighton (ENG) 27 21
Midfield Thorgan Hazard Borussia Dortmund (GER) 29 45

Forward Romelu Lukaku Inter Milan (ITA) 29 102
Forward Michy Batshuayi Fenerbahce (TUR) 29 47
Forward Dries Mertens Galatasaray (TUR) 35 106
Forward Eden Hazard Real Madrid (SPA) 31 122
Forward Lois Openda Lens (FRA) 22 4
Forward Jeremy Doku Stade Rennes (FRA) 20 10

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