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Not visited this site in ages. I was just having a look to see the Pool meltdown and saw the awful news.

RIP 999

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Yes 9, he’s getting his contract paid up, it’s up to the two parties to decide what it’s worth.

You could also say Ole has had to lose out on £10.5m to relieve himself of his obligation to Manchester United.

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Quote from Jose

“That was not mutual agreement – mutual agreement was in my first period at Chelsea where I agreed completely that it was time to change (2007). I was very keen to change, I was more than ready to go on my adventure to other countries – I wanted to go to Spain, to Italy.

“This time, it was not [mutual]. It was a decision by the owner and I was informed of that decision. And I accepted it, obviously, in a polite way.”

Interesting he says he was informed and accepted it, so consented

Come on 9 you can do better than that………Pagan

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Yet another selective cut and paste 9

“Mourinho admits he once said he’d never manage Spurs but jokes ‘That was before Chelsea sacked me”

Jose, always spoke the truth?

Bet there’s thousands of Jose untruths out there, apparently he never had an interest in signing Ashley Cole as he was too short

Come on 9 at least use a credible witness…….Pagan

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Ok you 2, give me the grounds that Ole was as you say was “sacked” for.

No the media are very clever, they say sacked and then go on to say he’s left the club.

If they thought they could sack, then they would, but they know they’d lose in court, so it’s far cheaper to pay out early that wait until they can.

Would you rather pay out the compensation or lose the CL money for next season, a good business weighs up the risks and in this case it’s pay compensation…………Pagan

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9, Ed, obviously you don’t have much to do with HR, as for sky they later go on to quote Manchester United as I posted before.

You both obviously don’t understand employment law yet seem to be experts on it, “see you in court” is probably a phrase you get to hear a lot…………Pagan

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Ed, having your contract terminated is different to being sacked, it means your no longer bound by it. If the employer thinks he can do that without having to pay out it will, but as I’ve said it has to be for breach of contract or gross misconduct.

Chelsea and Avram came to an agreement where the club paid £5m to Avram in order to do so.

Doesn’t matter how big a business you are you have to prove breach of contract or gross misconduct…………Pagan

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Ed, to sack someone they have to be in breach of contract or for gross misconduct.

Manchester United (as Chelsea have been in the past) are fearful that they won’t finish high enough in the league to qualify for the CL, so believe a change of management is required.

If there’s a performance clause in his contract, then they can’t do anything about it until he’s failed (mathematically impossible in this case) and is then too late to rectify for the club.

If a club could sack a manager then it would, but paying out a possibly failing manager is probably more cost effective that losing the CL money…………Pagan

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With Nils more depressive nature I’d go for this one………Pagan

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Nil, that’s true, nobody is obliged to give you a reference, however your not allowed to give a negative reference…………Pagan

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Nil, that’s true, nobody is obliged to give you a reference, however your not allowed to give a negative reference…………Pagan

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Ed, when you sack someone it’s a disciplinary process, they have to have done something wrong or consistently failed to meet performance targets(which is a very long procedure)

What Manchester United have done is buy out the remainder of Ole’s contract, Manchester have saved money and Ole is no longer bound by the T&Cs of his contract. The other option was to keep paying him and making him turn up to work every day to do nothing or put him on “gardening leave”

Leaving by mutual consent is a win win for both parties, Ole gets a big wedge, can start a new job tomorrow and no blemish on his employment record, Manchester United get the change of management they want and save themselves some money………Pagan

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Exactly Lucky, where I work, if you get sacked it’s no compensation and you lose all the pension contributions the company has paid, same in the police, that’s why they all try to resign when they facing serious allegations.

Let’s face it if we could all get a pay off, we’d be trying to get sacked 12 months before we are due to retire………Pagan

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From Manchester United

‘In a statement, Manchester United said Solskjaer had “left his role as manager”.

This is also from Sky, the same article actually, massive headline to get attention followed by the facts, 9 (king of the selective cut and paste) if they sacked him it would end up in court, they’ve paid him off end of story…………Pagan

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9, Ole has not been sacked, if he had 100% it would end up in litigation, he’s had his contract bought out, which means he has to lose something which is salary, but he gains not being employed so gets his freedom to work elsewhere. Can’t believe you don’t understand that…………Pagan

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9, not overly sure your familiar with how being sacked works, if your sacked your employment is terminated with immediate effect and you don’t get compensation or any other benefits. Ole has had his contract paid off, if you note it says parted company with mutual consent, that is to say they’ve come to an agreement for him to leave with an appropriate compensation package which won’t be the full salary but also won’t have all the conditions they could enforce. You don’t get that if your sacked…………Pagan

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You don’t get paid if you get sacked 9, Ole is having his contract paid off, the discussion is how much they will pay and on what terms, such as when he can take up another position else where………Pagan

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So not getting sacked then………Pagan

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Let’s face it, Ole’s not getting sacked, he’s getting his contract paid up without actually having to work it, not a bad life really………Pagan

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If it had been an opposition player that pushed him like that, he’d have been rolling round in the floor holding his face…………Pagan

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