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Jim, as per my post @5:17pm on 15/11.?

But this City team is head and shoulders above those teams that conceded big points leads previously and have a Coach who has done it all and got the tee shirt too and City have a hunger about them that those that capitulated previously didn’t have.

But I get why you City lads want to play it down because it is never truly over until the fat lady sings but the fat lady has never previously been practicing her scales this early.?

Enjoy it mate I think you might be experiencing something very special. Cheers 999

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Oz, the perfect summary mate.

As you rightly say City have a far better squad are effectively 3 games up on their nearest challengers and have one of the best if not the best Coach in world football and what we see from them every week some of which is magical is far more conclusive than what the pundits and the betting odds tell us which after all are just a reflection of City’s outstanding performances.

This is a very special City team imo and if Pep extends his contract which it is suggested he’s will we could be in for a period of City dominance of the PL akin to the United dominance under Fergie.

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United and Spurs are effectively 9 points behind City if you include goal difference Chelsea 10 and Liverpool and Arsenal 13. Which means City have to lose three games and the chasing club’s lose none and already Arsenal have lost 4 games, Chelsea 3 and all the rest 2 games. That’s the reason City are 1/7 on even without Mendy and Kompany.

Almost certainly everyone else is playing for second place and CL qualification and even then 3 into 5 remaining places doesn’t go.

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Oz, is anyone on here seriously predicting that anyone will overtake City?

I haven’t seen them if they are. Understandably the City lads don’t want to count their chickens and tempt fate and I get that.

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nb, I wouldn’t rule out a City hiccup but I still think they will win it and comfortably too with a few games to go. I can’t see too many putting any money on City at 1/7 on.

Chelsea are the bet at 20/1.?

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Jim, the Liverpool one doesn’t count mate because despite hauling in a 11 point deficit Liverpool lost the title at Anfield in the last game of the season which spawned “it’s up for grabs now” from Brian Moore ?

The City win to win the title that season was incredible and I doubt it will ever be bettered. And it spawned “I swear you’ll never see anything like this ever again.” From Martin Tyler.?

Maverick, I picked City as title winners before the season started and they are playing even better than I thought they would and I can’t see anyone catching them but I can understand the sensitivity of the City lads on here with so much football still to play I never accepted Chelsea had won it last season until we definitely couldn’t be caught. Cheers Lads 999

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Maverick, ha, ha, you don’t have to convince me mate I’m with you but I do understand why the City lads on here are a bit nervous with all the talk of it being all over bar the shouting although I suspect it probably is. Cheers 999

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Maverick, I think you’re right mate and City were my tip before a ball was kicked in anger this season and it’s difficult to see anyone getting close but as Jim rightly says there are 27 games to go and things have gone wrong before for teams with big leads as per the examples below so you can never say never I took the same position as the City lads on here it’s not over until it’s over and a 9 points lead only guarantees the title when there are two games to play:

1995/96 – Man Utd come from 12 points back to claim the Premier League

The archetypal Sir Alex Ferguson mental hoodoo voodoo struck a Newcastle side who were running away with the top flight at the end of January.

United won 13 of their final 15 games to close out the division by four points from their Kevin Keegan-managed Tyneside rivals.

1997/98 – Arsenal pip United despite a 12-point head-start

Far from impervious to similar implosions the Old Trafford club fell victim to the same old rope-a-dope just two seasons on.

This time it was them who held a 12-point advantage as late as the end of February, but Arsene Wenger insisted his side could still win the league and so they did, with two games to spare.

2002/03 – The Red Devils give Arsenal and Liverpool separate eight-point-plus cushions and still win

Liverpool sat top of the pile after 11 games while after 14 games the Gunners were a whole nine points to the good, remaining ahead by that margin at the turn of the year.

Fergie’s men dropped just 16 points during an 18-game undefeated stretch that began just after Christmas to scythe down the runaway leaders.

2011/12 – Mancini mental mastery allows Man City to overcome an eight-point chasm

Whether the City gaffer’s concession of the title to their rivals with nine games remaining was a planned masterstroke of psychological manipulation or merely the outburst of a disappointed man is a moot point.

However a run of one win in three by United (including defeats to Wigan and most tellingly City themselves) was enough faltering to hand a pressure-free City the trophy.

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nb is correct though the odds move around every Monday following the completion of the weekend fixtures and the results drive the changes plus the bets coming in.

Best bet is Chelsea at 20/1 they are almost exactly positioned as they were at this point last season and just about to go on another 13 game winning run.

You heard it here first. ?

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Jim, I understand what you’re saying and I know Wilshere divides opinion even among Arsenal fans but the key against the best sides in the World is ball retention and we suffered due to the lack of it v Brazil and if and when he’s fit Wilshere has the ability to retain the ball and use it well.

Will Southgate pick him? I doubt it without he’s playing regularly for Arsenal and on top form both of which seem a way away currently.

Of the strikers Kane, Rashford and Vardy are shoe ins imo after which I would be tempted to take one of the young strikers, overall I think Southgate might well go with quite a young squad for Russia and I think that makes sense because we have to be looking past this World Cup because we’re not going to win it and I would like to see Southgate use it to build something more meaningful going forwards with an eye on the Euro’s and the next World Cup given the quality of what we have coming through with players like young Foden etc.

The squad selection v Holland and Italy in March will be interesting with that in mind. Cheers 999

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Jim, I think Defoe and Sturridge might be under pressure Henderson too perhaps even Lallana I would currently take Winks,Loftus Cheek and Gomez I would definitely take Sterling.

I think Southgate will go with some of the young players we’re not going to win the World Cup anyway so let’s try and build something that might take us a bit further in the next Euros and World Cup.

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I think Giggs made a good point about Wilshere I know he’s had a terrible injury record and is struggling for starts at Arsenal but we haven’t got anyone as good as him on the ball that can play as a two in a pivot who can hold and use the ball as well as Wilshere.

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We’ve played the top two ranked sides in the world with a reduced squad and have remained unbeaten. Defensively as Jim says we’ve looked good and we were better offensively v Germany than we were tonight.

I’m sure this international break has been helpful to Southgate obviously we’re not going to win the W.Cup but we could get out of the Group stages and maybe even make the Qtr Finals I hope Southgate sticks with the younger players going forwards.

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No creativity at all in midfield Jim.

Gomez has looked quite promising on the right of a back three.

We’ll be alright now though with two “Made in Chelsea’s ” up top.?

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Things have gone from bad to worse for Ireland 1-3 now shame as their fans add a bit colour to any World Cup.

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Shame RLC went off he looked like he might just create something from midfield.

A pleasure to watch Neymar though what a player he is.

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Brian, tbh mate I’m not a betting man either and I can’t think 1/7 on for City will attract too many anyway.?

The best bet currently looks like Chelsea @ 20/1 at the end of October last season after 10 games they were on 22 points and lying 4th and this season after 11 games they are on 22 points and lying 4th.? Cheers 999

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Brian, from what I saw of Solanke at Chelsea at Youth team level he has real potential.

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I can see Arsenal v Spurs being a draw providing Arsenal turn up.

Leicester is a tricky fixture for City but I still can only see a City win.

Can only see comfortable wins for both United and Liverpool could even see a big win for United.

Be a tough game for Chelsea WBA under Pullis are never easy and club’s raise their game v the Champions but providing the real Chelsea turn up and there are no more injuries I would be disappointed if Chelsea don’t come through with a tight win.

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Brian, the odds reflect City’s form and the amount of money wagered on them if City went through a bit of a dodgy spell then the odds on City winning the title would move around.

I get why you City lads want to play the odds down but they are what they are fellas and the longer City maintain their current form the more City’s odds will harden albeit that 1/7 on are pretty hardened odds already.

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