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When Klopp came into Liverpool, he had to pretty much rebuild the squad. So even if Conte did leave a load of collateral damage when he leaves, if you find the right manager after him, they can always undo it by rebuilding! And it’s never as bad as you think it is.

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Maybe Man Utd are playing hard to get 😁

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Decision could be being made as we speak…

There’s no doubt on Antonio Conte decision since days. He wants Manchester United job and he’d be ready to accept. But there’s still no official proposal on the table, as things stand tonight. 🔴 #MUFC

Manchester United are still thiking whether sacking or not Solskjær.

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) October 25, 2021

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Van Dijk celebrating Salah’s goals before he even shoots. He already knows. pic.twitter.com/vIEqcmd28p

— • (@The_Gerrard_Era) October 25, 2021

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I don’t see how he can he hold on. To say after the game “The feeling we have had is we were getting where we wanted to be but in the last few weeks results haven’t come…” is pretty self damning.

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I know Nine, it was only a very minor point really, it’s more I think it just symbolises the problem as opposed to causing it. The owners were obviously very happy when Fergie was there and didn’t have to do much. When he left, they don’t seem to have much idea of what to do.

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Well I think this idea of it taking time under Fergie in his early days, and him also apparently close to getting sacked seems to maintain this thinking you have to give people time even if there are big bumps in the road. But I won’t go on about it now. Obviously if Fergie did stay away it won’t solve their problems. I just think his legacy hangs heavy over his successors and is still influential, with even Ole I think still recently talking about the “Utd way”.

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Lucky, yes indeed the owners are the root cause and should never have kept him on this long. But in the context of this culture of hanging on to the Utd way of playing, or rather Fergie way of playing, it doesn’t help with him being there. That picture of a disgruntled Fergie yesterday was very powerful and influential and just helped maintain the feeling of “remember how we played under Fergie.”

Very much agree with this thread which echoes what I said above.

Statement of the obvious: Man Utd as a club want to recreate what they had under Ferguson.

One problem with this, and people will bristle, is I’m not sure Ferguson’s United really had a style of play that can be ‘handed down’ in the Ajax or Barcelona manner.

— Daniel Zeqiri (@ZeqiriDan) October 25, 2021

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Lucky, not saying they should ban him, more that Sir Alex should himself decide to keep away now generally. I just don’t think his presence there is helping anyone.

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And I’m sorry – but Sir Alex should stay away from Old Trafford now in big games. This constant attention he brings at these games, particularly yesterday, only serves to act as a ghost on the wall haunting his successors.

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It seems to be forgotten that, in most cases, playing football that delivers trophies can be boring to watch for large periods of a game. It relies on a lot of hard work and can be very possession based, though it can be intertwined with moments of excitement which can mislead you into thinking it’s always like that. This idea that you can always play glorious football and trophy winning football is pretty rare. Even in Liverpool’s recent title season, they weren’t actually that great to watch, with there being a lot of hard fought tight 1-0 and 2-1 games. But we have this culture now where fans apparently want to always play exciting football no matter the cost. And I think Ole & Utd have fallen foul of this, this season, especially having some more exciting players to pick. To win titles, you have to build from the back. But he’s not been strong enough to stick to the principles he had in previous seasons. He’s felt he’s had to pick these star players. This is why they’ve gone backwards. The first job for any new manager, even a Zidane, would be a boring job for the players – which would be to get them organised first and foremost and stop conceding so many goals. So in light of that, if both Conte and Zidane both won trophies if they were the Utd manager, would it really matter if one was a bit more exciting at times? Fans ultimately want trophies. As I have said, they have to ditch this ‘Utd way’ and pushing flair players and philosophies on the manager. It’s actually making them regress now.

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You can see why they say you should wait until about 10 games in to judge the teams. Man Utd seemed to be doing OK results wise, but enough reality has been seen now to see where they actually are. Ditto Everton, who after looking quite good initially, now look like nothing much has changed from last season. But West Ham’s performances can’t now be put down to just a bit of good form, they look a very good team. Also Arsenal aren’t quite as bad as initially feared, etc, etc. And we can now be pretty sure we have a 3 way battle for the title.

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I think Carragher sums up where the board are…

🗣 "They're terrified to make a change… Manchester United need a better manager"@Carra23 discusses Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's future following Man Utd's 5-0 defeat to Liverpool at Old Trafford and what the #MUFC board might do next… pic.twitter.com/FbccyBv9ZV

— Sky Sports Premier League (@SkySportsPL) October 24, 2021

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Love Curb, one of the few comedies worth watching.

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I think Utd have to abandon playing this obsession with playing the “United way.” Liverpool had to adapt to what was available at the time and Houllier brought great stability with him as well as winning several trophies again, even if the football wasn’t always pretty to watch. But Fergie’s legacy continues to linger strongly at the club.

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Stronger leadership at the club would have moved Pogba on long ago. Like Ronaldo, these players are using the club as opposed to the other way round. They’re Real Madrid players really.

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The mistake they can’t make is to install Conte but then ask him to respect and play the ‘Utd way’.

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Maybe Mak, but the point is you have to use Ronaldo, not let Ronaldo use you. Utd have let Ronaldo completely use them.

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It’s hard to argue against the signing of Ronaldo. But you got the impression that Ronaldo made the move happen as opposed to Utd making it. He wanted a last shot at a big club in a big league and Utd probably felt they couldn’t turn him down. But City seemed quite happy not to take him, which is telling. Almost a bit of the Sanchez move about it, even if Ronaldo is scoring. So I think they’re letting players get the better of them.

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When the home fans leave that early in a game at such a big club, its usually game over for the manager.

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