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Longest serving premier league managers (via Wikipedia). Nearly half of the managers have been appointed within the last year.
Sean Dyche: 9 years, 14 days
Jürgen Klopp: 6 years, 36 days
Pep Guardiola: 5 years, 135 days
Marcelo Bielsa: 3 years, 151 days
Thomas Frank: 3 years, 28 days
Ralph Hasenhüttl: 2 years, 342 days
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer: 2 years, 329 days
Brendan Rodgers: 2 years, 259 days
Graham Potter: 2 years, 177 days
Mikel Arteta: 1 year, 326 days
David Moyes: 1 year, 319 days
Thomas Tuchel: 291 days
Bruno Lage: 157 days
Rafael Benítez: 136 days
Patrick Vieira: 132 days
Claudio Ranieri: 40 days
Antonio Conte: 11 days
Eddie Howe: 5 days
Steven Gerrard: 2 days
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That’s true but it’s not just Man Utd. Most managers are obviously ex professionals. But of all the players who have played in the premier league, can’t think of many who have become top managers.
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Is it not surprising that off all the successful players who have played for Man Utd over the last 3 decades…not one seems to be a top manager. Too much easier money to be made in punditry I suspect part of it.
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Gerrard is clearly ambitious, the question is whether his ambition is running ahead of his current capabilities. Time will tell.
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Let the premier league continue while the World Cup is on. That’ll level things up a bit 😁
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As Ed has said, I think if Viera continues to do well, City may well eye him to take over from Pep.
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They’ll have to smuggle it in.
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He/She makes the tea & coffee for the sporting director.
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Will Stevie celebrate if Villa score vs Liverpool? 😁
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Think it depends on the club. Viera looks to have found a good opportunity at Palace, and although they became established in the league under Hodgson, I don’t think there was a huge expectation or big targets on him going in. At Villa, it’s a bigger club and they seem to be have higher targets and it looks a tougher challenge.
Also the likes of Tuchel & Klopp only managed the likes of Mainz before the bigger Dortmund job.
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The really smart move, I think, for Gerrard, would very possible be staying in Scotland until the chap after Kloop has had a go…
I agree. He also has European football up there. I think some of these premier league jobs can be poisoned chalices.
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Banjo, look at the American owned Arsenal & Utd who have appointed former players with little management experience to play a long term strategy. I think there’ll be a massive temptation to do the same with Gerrard at Liverpool after Klopp. Can’t see FSG appointing a big gun who will want a big budget.
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The problem with the current qualifying system is that by treating every country the same, it assumes every country has the same population size and therefore gives them an equal weighting as much larger countries which means they ultimately end up as cannon fodder in the qualifying groups which does them no favours. I’m afraid every country isn’t the same so I really don’t see a problem with a seeding system where, like tennis, the lesser ranked players play each other to qualify – which actually gives them a better chance compared if they had to play Federer and Nadal in a qualifying group.
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I think he needs a job between Rangers & Liverpool (which I think we all know will happen) but the Villa job I’m not sure is best – he could finish 9th and that could well be the best he could finish, but the club may not be happy and his reputation and confidence could take a knock. I certainly don’t think he should be thinking he’s got to take it. Opportunities in this climate with a dearth of good managers will always come round again soon enough. Unless he knows there’s going to be a hefty budget there.
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Would a super league not be a better idea in the international game rather than the domestic leagues? Most of the historic power house nations would automatically qualify meaning no qualifiers are needed and the smaller nations would then play each other to qualify which would actually give them a better chance. And every country would have ranking points and all teams, even the big ones, could in theory get relegated out of the super league if they performed poorly. The idea is sort of starting with the Nations League. Why not formalise it into a super league?
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Hard to judge how well Gerrard is doing as a manager in the SPL. If I were him, my next club would be in the Championship. He’d be less in the limelight and the expectations wouldn’t be quite as high. At this stage of his fledgling managerial career where you’re still developing your man management and tactical skills, you don’t want to work on that in the pressure cooker of the Premier league. Many top coaches start in the lower divisions before then joining a top club.
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I think the system is based on calculated risks, but that if everyone does his job and is on form, those risks can be mitigated. The problem is we have an almost constantly changing midfield. Van Dijk isn’t up to his standards yet, and a few others aren’t on form.
But I will say a big reason for the loss yesterday was that if you get a team like West Ham, who aren’t as littered with talent as the big clubs, but who can be very organised and physical, particularly during corners, the big teams don’t like that, particularly in a climate now where players are protected, especially the goalkeeper. And I think the big teams get too comfortable with being protected…until they meet a West Ham team and they don’t deal with them very well at all and they think the referee will come to the rescue.
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I feel Klopp’s mindset is adjusted a little towards thinking the attack will outweigh the defense and essentially ‘take care of everything’.
Indeed nil. See also last season when we went through that awful period in the winter, but the 433 just persisted and persisted, almost in the hope that the front 3 would save us. I think he is a bit blinkered in that way. So was Rodgers.
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And if he never was going to change the system, he perhaps should have pushed the owners more in the summer for more cover in midfield. I know it will be said that’s a very risky game to play, and managers and owners can start to fall out and relationships break down. But then the manager is left looking exposed when a few injuries happen and he then doesn’t look good.
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Mak, I agree the injuries in midfield have undoubtedly exacerbated things. But football as we’ve said before is a game won by the team who make the fewer mistakes. We can maybe also point to Alisson today. But the cracks have been there for some time now. And Klopp just keeps persisting with the 433 and a high line.
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