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FSG out!
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Indeed I think that’s why we’re doing worse than I thought we would this season. The midfield issues AND the poor form of the defence.
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Added to that our back line have hardly been in great form either. Van Dijk looked more concerned about not hand balling it when we conceded that goal.
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Very true nil, we look like Man Utd at the back in their first two games. I didn’t expect a title challenge this season, but looking like top 4 might be a challenge now. To not have addressed the midfield issues over summer is ludicrous and I think its clearly irked Klopp.
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The problem with the midfield issue at Liverpool is that it’s particularly crucial to the defence. So if you get through the midfield easily, you’ll just fly past the defenders.
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Said if we donβt get a result this game, weβve got bigger problems than I thought. Looks like we do.
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Never saw Ten Hag changing his philosophy much. So he’s changed some of the players instead. Probably the best decision from Ten Hags point of view as telling his players to play a different way after coaching his way would not have been ideal and caused confusion. May get more performance from the other players too. We’ll see how they do, but still would expect a Liverpool win.
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“…we tend to deal with what we have. It would be cool to have new midfielder in, of courseβ
That to me translates as Klopp diplomatically appealing for help.
Klopp: βNew midfielder? If the right player is not available in this moment we tend to deal with what we have. It would be cool to have new midfielder in, of courseβ. π¨π΄ #LFC
βNaby Keita will not go but if he would – he won't – there must be a replacementβ. pic.twitter.com/UoqjsYI3Tj
— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) August 21, 2022
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It’s been an exciting start, and whilst its very early you can still gauge where the teams are at.
Arsenal undoubtedly look better, have bought well but haven’t been properly tested yet, City still look very good and the quick comeback today was very impressive. Chelsea look like they’re blowing hot and cold a bit and could definitely do with more here and there. Spurs look a lot more gritty under Conte. Liverpool have a problem in midfield which ought to have been addressed over summer but they should still pick up, and Utd look as awful as they did last season exacerbated by a new manager implementing a new philosophy who has no experience of the league and is struggling to bring in players.
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Thing is with Newcastle and Leeds more than anything is the players just look like they’re enjoying themselves. Similar with Brentford. Makes a difference. Ditto Arsenal. Compare to the teams at the bottom.
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City back level in a matter of minutes. So impressive.
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Might have game of the season here already.
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Pearler!
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Good to see an English manager at least competing with the world’s best.
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Blimey.
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Good game. Newcastle full of beans, but still expect a City win.
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You still pessimistic Adlab? π
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That’s fair enough Ed, and I don’t disagree with you about some of that. I was just partly provoking debate about it to dive deeper on the issues. What I would maybe say though is would it be better for a more gradual takeover in the sense that if you can start to get the right people in upstairs, they can maybe bring in the right investors in over time which would lead to an eventual takeover later? If you got them out in one foul swoop, then as I allude to above, you may get a completely different owner who may correct some things, but may also cause new problems elsewhere.
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As I say Lucky, I’m partly playing devil’s advocate. I just think there’s an argument that they look more lost than anything in trying to direct the club forwards and am surprised at the seeming lack of former players available to try and help them. As for the way they bought the club, if you want a new owner to buy the club they need big pockets or it needs to be a state type takeover, and when that happens, the control of the club will very much be in their hands and less so the fans, and they may want to take things in a completely different direction. But as things stand with the Glazers, the fans do seem to have a strong degree of influence on the direction they want to go in. As I say, if they just get the recruitment structure right, they’ll shoot back up the league and talk of how they bought the club would probably die down.
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If I might play devil’s advocate here, are the Glazers truly the worst owners in the world? Are they truly bad people constantly counting their chips and laughing with evil smirks on their faces far away? They’re maybe inexperienced and out of their depth in the Premier league, but they have still spent an awful lot of money. They followed the advice of Fergie and tried to keep in tune with the long term vision of the club. Then when that went badly you could forgive them in appointing some more bigger name experienced managers. They’ve tried appointing former players as managers. They’re now bending to the fans with managerial appointments and have appointed former players like Darren Fletcher as technical director.
My point here is this. Just imagine you appointed your average fan as owner of Man Utd. You could well imagine them following a similar path to the Glazers in listening to Fergie, spending big to get out of trouble, appointing more experienced managers, then trying to play the long game again.
Would it not be more productive for people like Gary Neville – rather than cheerleading efforts to get them out – why not try and sit down with them and help them get the right recruitment structure in at the club. Because they sort that out, and they’re pretty much good to go.
New owners may well have their own vision of the club which the fans may not like – and all owners will still want something out of the club and some kind of return at some point. As the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for…you might get it.
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