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City really don’t like playing Spurs do they? Having a go at City always the best tactic, particularly when City are increasingly easy to play against.
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Man Utd will be nailed on for top 4 now. How much better they can become after that is to be seen.
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Arsenal have no players to bail them out if they’re not playing great. I’ve never understood all the talk of them to be title contenders over recent years, certainly when they’re up against City. I’m also all too aware how crucial Salah is to us. Diaz has been getting better though and we have a good mix of attackers though it doesn’t look like the punt on Chiesa going to pay off. Be interesting to see what business is done in January. You can bet City will be doing something!
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I think it’s more than a few missed chances Banjo. Ange is a good attacking coach but there are surely issues out of possession and in game management.
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Ange just seems to be very tactically poor.
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Nuno’s still done a good job even if I did give them the kiss of death. Newcastle I think will come back this season after last season. Spurs what can you say? The definition of inconsistency.
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Nuno clearly a very good manager. He was the wrong fit for Spurs.
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A few quid on a Spurs comeback might be worth a punt.
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Nunez is a good front 3 player and works hard. But he has not been good enough to replace Mané. We’ve basically spent £80 mill on a good squad player. Also after an initially good start, I dont think Szoboszlai is up to much. We are now very dependent on Salah – even if he drifts a bit in games, he always comes up with a goal or assist. We must have some money to spend in January. That’s not to say we should spend it for spending’s sake, but I’d be surprised if we don’t bring anyone in – particularly given that no one of major note has been signed under Slot. Personally I think we need another attacker and midfielder.
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City will be moving heaven and earth for a defensive midfielder in January.
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Madrid have lost again.
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I think the league has become more competitive. But I’d argue it has been for a while. City haven’t been hitting the heights of their 100 point & 99 point winning seasons for several years now.
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Never doubted us today. I thought from the outset of the season we had a chance this season. Slot has inherited & kept the qualities of the Klopp side but made us more refined and less chaotic. Still be good to see a few additions in January.
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I just don’t think Arsenal are an extraordinary side or have enough world class ability to win the big trophies.
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Klopp got to two cup finals in his first season. And he had an immediate effect on a poor side. Pep admittedly took a bit of time to coach his style but you could see the effect he was having. And both got better and better. Both clearly had a galvanising effect on their dressing rooms. Ten Hag didn’t and went from 3rd to 8th to currently 14th. Also I do think it helped him in his first season that Chelsea & Liverpool had off seasons from their previous ones. And I don’t think they played particularly brilliantly that first season.
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Just a general reply to the above.
I think Pep & Klopp both hit the ground running so it quickly gave them authority at the club. Ten Hag didn’t so he struggled to build a mentality in the dressing room. I’ll grant you he didn’t have the structure around him to help him, but he took the job. He should have known what he was walking into. Jose & Van Gaal weren’t out of this world, but they were still the best Utd had in the last 10 years.
As for the comparison to Liverpool, we have a much tighter budget and there was no immediate expectation to win the big trophies. At Liverpool it’s about exceeding expectations with what you have vs having a bigger budget to win sooner (as you would expect at such a club) which I think is a very different environment.
Amorim does seem quite charismatic so you would immediately expect him to be an improvement on Ten Hag. It’s how he handles a club like Man Utd vs Sporting Lisbon. I’m also to be convinced of his quality at a higher level given his less extraordinary European record. OK, Slot wasn’t extraordinary there either at Feyenoord, though I think he still took a team that wasn’t worth a lot to a European final.
As for Tuchel, yes I hear about the fallouts but he does deliver success. Even if he only lasted 2 or 3 years, better that than all these years with unextraordinary managers delivering very little.
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It all starts with the manager. They’re still the most important person at a club and they dictate the direction of the club – even if other departments aren’t working, they get them working (unless there’s strong politics at play). The reason I bang on about appointing a bigger name is because you need that authority to manage big players, make tough decisions and handle expectations. They tend to hit the ground running because of their charisma, authority and communication skills. If players aren’t performing they freeze them out and move them on. As for alternatives, Tuchel was available. Flick was available, now flying high with Barca. Conte went to Napoli in the summer, they’re now flying high.
Amorim may work out but given that it’s hard to measure him in the weaker European league, you can onky look at his record in the European cups, which may look reasonable but I don’t think is extraordinary. Mourinho won the CL with Porto. And everyone likes to point to Ferguson before Utd being perhaps not proven yet, but he won a European trophy with Aberdeen which was extraordinary. I think you have to have that authority of proven extraordinary success to manage Utd. But they seem hellbent on finding someone to develop players and do things the right way, whatever that means.
A big club needs a big manager. It really is as simple as that.
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Ye of little faith Ed 🙂
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Remember, Ange wins things in his second season 🙂. City really don’t like going to Spurs do they?
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