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One name hasn’t even been mentioned on this thread yet (or the media in general). The Glazers. They are the owners and are ultimately accountable for the leadership and direction of the club. But they’re too busy milking the commercial revenues of the club. I don’t even think they’re particularly interested in football – there doesn’t seem much evidence of it anyway. Yet they seem to get forgotten about. Bizarre.
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The club has been acting like a rabbit in the headlights ever since Fergie left. There was no plan whatsoever after he left and there still isn’t one. I think complacency has played a huge part in this in that because the brand and commercial stature of the club is so big, they’ve thought things would take care of themselves with minimum input from the board.
No leadership whatsoever and a huge amount of money squandered.
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Another one bites the dust.
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What must be so depressing for the rest of the league is that even though Man Utd are in a crisis and have had their worst start to the league in decades – they are still in the top 6 and are still therefore the best of the rest!
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It’s the upstairs bit that Man Utd also need to get right though – the two go hand in hand. They still haven’t recovered from losing both Fergie and Gill all those years ago. No point offering long contracts if they still ain’t got that part right.
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I fancy Juve at 13/2. They’re overdue a European Cup and are as strong as they’ve been for a while. Still think City lack real leaders to push them over the line in that competition.
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Klopp was offered an initial 3 year contract which was later extended. I think that’s a much more sensible length. I hear what you’re saying but I think sometimes that a very long contract can actually do more harm than good and that players or managers can take their foot off the gas somewhat and feel too comfortable. I think that’s one reason that didn’t help Moyes – I think it removed any urgency from the job he was set to do…and it gave him time he thought he had but didn’t and thus put him on the wrong footing.
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5 year contract?? If the board should have learned anything over the last few years, it’s surely to stop throwing out big lengthy contracts to people expecting them to be the messiah.
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Where do you think you go from here Ed? Be curious to know what Ed Woodward & Bobby were talking about in the crowd.
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Jose’s lost the dressing room Sean, that’s what’s happened. But the board don’t know what to do.
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He does spill them Allison. That was bound to happen at some point.
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Liverpool should be about 3 or 4 up. The front 3 are still no where near as fluid and clinical as they should be.
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Salah should have had a few more tonight.
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People also have short memories Ed. I’d say Suarez has made a full “recovery” at Barcelona, most people now think of his goals and skills rather than biting and the Evra incident. And clubs know this because that’s what clubs are ultimately about – goals, skills and entertaining people. Also remember Cantona? – not racism but still very bad behaviour. But people quickly forget because they want to forget. So human behaviour or rather mob behaviour also plays a part here. Entertainment trumps morality.
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Ed, depends on whether it’s in a club’s interest to prosecute. If it’s a player or owner abusing players, they have immunity because of the power they hold over the club. If it’s just a few fans, they have little power so will get prosecuted. It’s ultimately a question of who holds more power/money. It shouldn’t be, but this is the way the world works I’m afraid. Which is why the US recently didn’t go after Saudi Arabia after the murder of the journalist because it wasn’t in their interests to do so. But had it been a less powerful country, they would have done. As the old saying goes, nations don’t have friends, only interests. The same is pretty much true of clubs.
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City haven’t done anything today after looking to be in control. And Chelsea seemed to sense this after the break by going after City. Good for them.
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City controlling and dominating but haven’t done enough. Hazard such a clever and composed player with that pass.
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I still don’t think City have been tested this season (apart from in the CL) and I’m afraid I don’t see Chelsea threatening them this evening. Chelsea have played some lovely stuff at times this season, but they ain’t going to out City, City. I fear they may play into City’s hands if they do so. If they are to threaten them, they really need to get in City’s faces and disrupt them.
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As expected, Jose and the team have few issues getting motivated in the big games this season. But doesn’t that just show, regrettably, how players are now playing for themselves when the big cameras are on them, but against the lesser sides, the performance drops off as the TV audience level drops. Same used to be true of Liverpool who often performed in the big games but less so against the lesser sides. One things for sure then – that clash between the two on Dec 16 will be huge. Jose no doubt already planning that one, and Klopp has yet to beat a Mourinho Man Utd side.
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