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Threeps, if we are now tactically better set up to defend, why have we conceded as many goals in our last 5 games as we did in our first 19 games? We can’t just blame it all on a few injuries. Or if we can, it shows it wasn’t the set up after all.
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Threeps, we were actually pretty average in a lot of those 20 games, it was that defensive pairing that bailed us out on multiple occasions. With that gone, I’m afraid we’re now seeing a truer reflection of where we are. So I’m to be convinced that this is just a blip.
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I assume it doesn’t incorporate the human factor? Is it all just based on previous stats?
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HH, the lack of fight is the real worry, and it’s not just a very new phenomenon. In the match vs City, they clearly wanted it more. That was unforgivable. We are not ruthless enough and being ruthless is the hallmark of champions. I don’t know. I’m starting to wonder if it might take us having to drop back down to 2nd/3rd spot for us to wake up. It really shouldn’t do. I thought we were better than that. And as for the having injuries, West Ham were also without many key players last night. So we can’t use that excuse. I just worry Klopp isn’t ruthless enough. I look at other managers from Fergie, to Mourinho (in better days), Conte and Guardiola more recently, and I see ruthless winners.
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There’s no doubt the injuries have made life difficult and have obviously contributed to our current form. But given that we have still propelled our way to the top, I’m not sure this tone that Klopp has been conveying that “we’re just enjoying the ride” has been the right one. I understand he’s been trying to take the pressure off, but at the same time I wonder if it’s taken some of the urgency away from our performances. Is he ruthless enough?
Aussie, City have still lost 4 games with only just over half of the season gone. So they are beatable. We’ve simply not been able to capitalise on it for a variety of reasons, with resources only being a part of it.
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At the moment with where the attack and the defence is, this side looks like Liverpool 2016/17 spec.
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Back to conceding at least a goal a game. It was nice to have that defence whilst it lasted. Sigh.
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Mané is still our most important forward player. He is a spark.
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Salah still taking the corners I see. And badly.
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Apologies for the duplicates, computer seemed to play up.
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I wouldn’t say Liverpool are in any kind of crisis yet, but the recent defensive issues are obviously highly significant and will impact on their main strategy this season. A change of tack may be needed and we may need to see more of the attacking verve/pressing we saw last season to counteract this problem. Either that or Fabinho moves into defence…though it’s to be seen how well he’d cope over a good run of games in such a position. In an ideal world Keita will take off.
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I wouldn’t say Liverpool are in any kind of crisis yet, but the recent defensive issues are obviously highly significant and will impact on their main strategy this season. A change of tack may be needed and we may need to see more of the attacking verve/pressing we saw last season to counteract this problem. Either that or Fabinho moves into defence…though it’s to be seen how well he’d cope over a good run of games in such a position. In an ideal world Keita will take off.
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I wouldn’t say Liverpool are in any kind of crisis yet, but the recent defensive issues are obviously highly significant and will impact on their main strategy this season. A change of tack may be needed and we may need to see more of the attacking verve/pressing we saw last season to counteract this problem. Either that or Fabinho moves into defence…though it’s to be seen how well he’d cope over a good run of games in such a position. In an ideal world Keita will take off.
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Thing is Nil, it’s not just conceding less goals that has helped us this season. It’s the strength of that defence that has got us over the line in so many games because our attack has been compromised without Coutinho/Ox and Keita has yet to make an impact. If our current trend continues, it will be a matter of when we fall behind not if. We either address it or we start banging in more goals. Preferably, we do both.
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It took Liverpool 19 premier league games to concede just 7 goals, but just 5 more premier league games to concede 7 more goals again. Up to game 19, Liverpool were matching Chelsea’s record season of 04/05 conceding just 15 goals in an entire season. I think that’s now gone. And remember Liverpool’s main reason for their results this season is down to that defence – not the attack.
Liverpool need to sort this blip out and quickly.
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Is Poch not just trying to PR his way out of his “cup ego gaffe”?
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The positive is Mak that although it’s been a mixed month for us, there is still a spark in the team. They are still finding a way in a lot of the games to get something be it by hook or by crook. And most of the teams in the top 6, even City, have got their problems. As for the other night, as I said previously, I think these training trips away can sometimes work two ways. Granted we’ve had our injuries, several members of the team just looked off the other night. Whilst having time off somewhere different seems like a good idea on the surface, I think you can also drift into a more relaxed mood after not playing a competitive game for a bit. (A similar thing happened two years ago vs Leicester after previously training abroad). But hopefully this will wake us up again.
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Sean, I don’t think you can predict any game at the moment. Most of the top 6 teams are stuttering in their own way for a variety of reasons.
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Nine, do you not think you’re lacking strong vocal leaders in that dressing room? This is what I was trying to point out at many top clubs on the “manager authority” thread. A manager has to have strong leaders on the pitch. The manager can’t do it all by himself. I think that’s partly why Sarri said what he did after the Arsenal loss.
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