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Just building this game now. Next goal a big one.
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Why oh why does Salah keep taking corners??
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Spurs looking dangerous on the counter. If they want to make a mark on the game they need to take advantage now whilst Liverpool are still easing into the game.
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Hope we’ve not scored too early.
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Looking back at other finals, I’d suspect this game will play out a bit like the Bayern vs Dortmund final of 2013 when Bayern won 2-1. As I said in the EL thread, keep an eye over the hour mark of the game – many big goals tend to be scored around this time in finals.
All about managing and keeping the momentum with you in a final. Quick starts can easily backfire and tend to create lots of reactions and counter reactions. Stay in the game and score at the right times and keep the momentum with you.
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Forecast for Madrid tomorrow evening is a hot one: 31C clear/sunny. Any pressing will have to be carefully managed.
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Adlab, Pulisic to answer your question. That’s the hope anyway.
As for Arsenal, as I pointed out before they’re almost a different side when not playing at the Emirates. There’s a huge disparity between their home and away record. They really need players who will stand up and be counted. They’re just too flaky at the moment.
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It’s funny – was going to post before the game but when looking back at a lot of finals I observed that many of the teams who scored a run of goals around the hour mark tended to win. Indeed in finals many big goals tend to come around the hour mark and it’s a good time to assert yourself in a game and keep the momentum with you.
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Is it me or could you actually hear the players talking on the pitch as well? In a final?
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The hassle caused to that guy just to try and get a few instant giggles on social media. I do wish people would engage their brains more and take responsibility particularly those with vast numbers of followers – unfortunately the more the followers the more tempting to use the influence irresponsibly.
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Be a fascinating watch. Purely on managers you’d have to favour Emery what with his record in the Europa League. However, I think Chelsea have a bit more resilience about them which their league form demonstrates – interestingly in the season just gone – filtering the table to home games only – Arsenal finish 3rd, and Chelsea 4th. However, filtering to away games only – Chelsea finish 5th and Arsenal 8th.
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It’s the social aspect too as were cutting the human being out of the transaction. Call me old fashioned, but there’s nothing wrong with a bit of advice from experts and experience in shops, and also the simple exchanging of pleasantries at a supermarket where we’re instead increasingly dealing with machine tills. But it’s cheaper in the marketplace so that’s what drives it. Market knows best…not for me.
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If they spend loads, climb their way up the table and win a few big prizes, I think they could live with a CL ban for a year in the future.
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A good time to be a football agent.
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Nine, no doubt. But I suspect this trend has increased significantly over recent decades, and I’d be curious to know how well the smaller clubs are able to attract younger fans and how sustainable they’ll be in the future.
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The only thing that will shift a change in culture will be if TV subscriptions start declining. Until then, so long as such interest is maintained, the clubs will deem that all football fans must be happy with the current arrangements.
Indeed, just come across this recent article, which argues that fans (particularly younger ones) aren’t now bothered about whether teams are vastly unequal – they just want to see star players entertaining them. And if that trend continues, you’d expect younger fans will then simply pick one of the top six teams to support as opposed to who their local (perhaps smaller) premier league club is. All this doesn’t mean this new type of fan is right, just that they’ve been brought up in this culture to believe it’s the best set up.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/20/football-tv-manchester-city-watford-fa-cup-final
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Football decided to go down the free market private business route years ago, and here lie the consequences today. Winning is everything to a business so they all look for perfection to crush their opponents completely. Sure teams should want to win, but to the extent they want to freeze out the other clubs permanently? Who’s the winner in that game? And is it in the spirit of the game? And I do grow tired of this argument that “all these top managers and players lift our own players”. If that’s true why did France win the last World Cup, and Germany the time before that? Both have weak domestic leagues.
You can try and impose stronger player contracts to help protect the smaller clubs but both the top clubs and players have now become too powerful and would counteract such things and say it goes against the spirit of the free market. So you can the two ideologies clashing and which one has won. Perhaps only when the ratings and TV subscriptions start dropping off it may change things (though the top clubs would probably see that as a reason to start a super league – it’s all about perception and then manipulation).
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The seeds for all this were sown long ago when clubs became businesses. And in the advent of the premier league in the early 90s with Sky pumping vast quantities of cash into the game, the legacy it has left us with today is not really a surprising one in terms of making clubs more powerful. So really debates about fines and bans are neither here nor there. This is what modern football is and it’s here to stay until it no longer becomes sustainable. As I’ve mentioned before on here, the blueprint for all this seems to have been from the New York Cosmos in the US in the 70s when they splashed huge amounts of cash on players like Pele to take the game off over there. And it was briefly successful…until the TV networks pulled the plug and that was that. But in Europe the TV revenues have made all this sustainable (and profitable). So it grows and grows. To what end? Whilst a super league seems increasingly inevitable, I’m not quite as sure. I think the domestic fans still have a big influence on the direction of the game and if they went on strike, things would quickly disintegrate. As an alternative then, and going back to the US analogy, I do wonder whether to increase the excitement they may eventually dispense with the result of a draw, and instead at the end of the game you would have a “run up, dribbling” version of penalties from 25 yards out to force a result, and so maximise the entertainment value. Winner takes all. That seems to be the mentality now.
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Magnificent efforts from both sides in the run in. That City win was their 18th in 19 games. Ridiculous. It’s hard to be critical of Liverpool this season all things considered. I said at the time the game at the Etihad was huge at the time and that was the biggest moment in the race this season, psychologically speaking that is. We should have gone for it more in that game but Klopp has been trying to find the balance this season between stopping us being too gung go and being more patient. Cest la vie and to have pushed City all the way in the run is an incredible achievement and bodes extremely well for the future.
Until the European finals…
Have a good summer all…
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Aussie, those too were my first feelings (and as I said recently we probably should have pressed a bit more in some games this season because it’s such a strength of ours). But in a final it’s all about managing the momentum. If we went 2-0 up fairly quickly and then tired a bit second half and the game drifted and then Spurs get one back – the momentum would then be with Spurs at a critical moment in the match. Whereas if we can go 1-0 up say in the first half, then again later in the second half, it just keeps the momentum with us. And that’s what’s key in a final.
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