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Nine, not so much advocating it as saying I fear these are the sorts of thing we might see come in at some point if TV increasingly call the shots. At the moment, if a standard league game ends in a draw, you can almost sense a tone of disappointment in the commentator’s voice (unless there’s a late equaliser). Indeed in America, which is very influential on culture, the concept of a draw in sport is basically unheard of. There has to be a winner. Always. That’s what TV thrives on. So even some of Banjo’s wild suggestions above, might not actually look so wild to the TV people. Indeed one wonders if VAR was brought in more for the drama (like last week) rather than for righting supposed wrongs. And look at the online traffic it generates whether fans are angry or not. It’s somewhat win win for the broadcasters regardless.
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They’d probably have to adapt it somewhat, but as I say, if Brian is right that the broadcasters will be the ones increasingly calling the shots, I’d expect to start seeing gimmicks like powerplays and run up penalties creeping into the game. Anything that helps increase the drama. That’s what TV ratings are all about.
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Perhaps so Banjo, but I do worry that this is the way the game is evolving. If not this, could there be powerplays where teams have to remove a defender for a period of the game to promote attacking play? I can see more things like this touted to try and force results so you have a winner and loser, rather than a “boring” draw from the broadcasters point of view.
And to answer your question what happens if a goalie fouls the player running up, it lead to a “proper” penalty in the MLS, as seen here at 2:35
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I really do think that managers would loathe the idea of such a big squad. One compromise that could be touted that may keep the managers and broadcasters happy (in the shorter term anyway) would be to start abolishing the idea of a drawn game and replacing it with a high drama “run up” penalty shootout. Indeed this has been touted for the 2026 World Cup.
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Fair point Banjo – I just simplified the conclusion – but it is indeed a battle between the premier league and the big historical continental clubs, who are looking to drive changes to the CL as a way of levelling the playing field in terms of money/revenues, though I still don’t see a full on breakaway league happening just yet for the reasons given above.
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As the article above points to, this is all rooted in the resentment that the continental clubs have towards the much bigger money in the premier league and thus they want to drive more of it towards themselves. But no matter how big the clubs’ global fan bases are becoming, they are still, by simple geography, inextricably linked to their own local community and fan base. And the match going fans still wield a strong influence on a club be it from mass protests, boycotting or driving out managers. So whilst the Champions League may well change somewhat, I don’t think a full on breakaway league is on the horizon just yet. I think the local fans would stamp their feet too much. However, the big clubs on the continent could well make further mischief by playing European games at the weekend, which has been mooted (which would obviously take the focus away from the domestic leagues – link below). So at the moment, this is ultimately a simple power battle between the Premier League and the Champions League.
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Mignolet has clearly been unhappy for sometime. Rather than deal with that proactively, they waited until he left a week before the new season and were lucky Adrian was available, who, being a free agent, was able to sign up very quickly.
Never mentioned we should sign someone of the order and cost of Mbappe. Be nice if we could mind.
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Nothing wrong with a free agent, but had they identified Adrian a while ago, why didn’t they act then? Adrian could easily have signed for another club before we came in for him. That not a tad risky just days before the new season?
Regards a Salah replacement, given how long it can take for Klopp to settle in players, do you not think it wiser to bed them in sooner rather than later?
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Whilst there is certainly something to be said for Klopp’s “less is more” approach and being patient in waiting for the right player to be identified (which obviously helps to create a very cohesive team), it’s still vital that the squad becomes robust enough to deal with any injuries and/or departures. And that’s still a concern with our transfer strategy.
Take the no.2 goalkeeper situation – this is still a very important position at the club – as Liverpool have seen recently. Rather than be proactive and really sort it out, the club got caught out when Mignolet decided to leave a week before the season and the club were then scrambling to find a new no.2 just days before the new season – and had to bring in a free agent. There was something very amateurish about that that I don’t think you’d have seen at the likes of Chelsea or City. My worry, and it is only a worry at the moment, is that Klopp is getting too powerful at the club with regards to transfers in a way that other managers aren’t. Klopp will leave one day. It’s vital he doesn’t take the success with him.
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I think at Arsenal, Wenger became far too powerful a figure at the club with regards to transfers – it seems there was no internal pressure on him. He called all the shots and it’s arguably what ultimately cost him his job. Now with him gone, I think the recruitment team can finally start to exert their own pressure. In an ideal world, the relationship between the manager and the recruitment team has to be a two way street, with neither party becoming too powerful. At City, even having Guardiola, arguably the best manager in the world, you still sense they very much have an independent transfer team constantly looking for players and somewhat pressuring Guardiola to look at them. That certainly seems to be the case at Chelsea which is why they cope so well with changes in management. At Liverpool, I think whilst the relationship between Klopp and the recruitment team looks a good one, they just have to be very careful that Klopp doesn’t become too powerful (as tempting as that might be).
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My post seems to have disappeared: reposting for information:
Can understand that Steveo with regards to new players freshening things up, though we’ll see how quickly Emery can instil that mentality into the team. He obviously did it at Sevilla, though how much of that was down to him and what he already had at the club I’m not sure. I’d still like to see more players coming through at all the academies. If there’s one image that stood out for me with Arsenal over recent decades, it was Jack Wilshere looking like the only one who cared in many games, raising his arms in frustration and trying to get players fired up. Arsenal just need more of that for me. As for Liverpool, we’ll see. For Klopp, it’s very much a case if less is more which to be fair is what he’s built a lot of his success on, though one does worry if he’s been a touch naive this summer. Time will tell. Obviously if Ox and Keita stay fit and deliver, those are effectively two new signings, though given their injury records, that’s a potential worry.
As for the game this week, if we keep up with this high line to play the offside trap it’s going to be a case of watching behind the curtains for me – VAR may well be adopted a few times. I do wonder if Klopp will adapt a bit more given Arsenal’s strengths. At the moment I’d probably say draw given where both teams are at.
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Can understand that Steveo with regards to new players freshening things up, though we’ll see how quickly Emery can instil that mentality into the team. He obviously did it at Sevilla, though how much of that was down to him and what he already had at the club I’m not sure. I’d still like to see more players coming through at all the academies. If there’s one image that stood out for me with Arsenal over recent decades, it was Jack Wilshere looking like the only one who cared in many games, raising his arms in frustration and trying to get players fired up. Arsenal just need more of that for me. As for Liverpool, we’ll see. For Klopp, it’s very much a case if less is more which to be fair is what he’s built a lot of his success on, though one does worry if he’s been a touch naive this summer. Time will tell. Obviously if Ox and Keita stay fit and deliver, those are effectively two new signings, though given their injury records, that’s a potential worry.
As for the game this week, if we keep up with this high line to play the offside trap it’s going to be a case of watching behind the curtains for me – VAR may well be adopted a few times. I do wonder if Klopp will adapt a bit more given Arsenal’s strengths. At the moment I’d probably say draw given where both teams are at.
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You probably saw on our TT site Steveo that a question was posed – if we had lost the CL final, would we have bought more players this summer? I think undoubtedly the win put us on a different footing in our approach and it’s hard to have seen us not spending more had we lost the final. And indeed you see from the article above the loss for Arsenal in the final very much woke them up and somewhat forced them to act, so you have two opposite situations and the subsequent differences in the approaches for Arsenal and Liverpool. We’ll see how they pan out.
Only thing I’d say for Arsenal – as good as some of their business looks, I’ve just had a quick look at your squad profile and how long they’ve generally been at the club. Bar Özil (who may leave soon), Bellerin and Monreal most of the squad have only been at Arsenal for about 2 years. Whereas at Liverpool it’s that bit more because Klopp has been building it up and binding it together now for 4 years. And that would be my only concern this season for you, you’ve just got to play the waiting game now – hold on to some of these players and get them really bedded in at the club. The best teams tend to be the most cohesive ones, hence your poor form away from home last season when you needed more senior long standing members to take charge, and you didn’t really have many. Your having a honeymoon period now, but your away form this season will certainly be one key area to watch for as the season develops.
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Sean, as far as I understand, arms are not considered when judging offsides. My point more concerning to what degree of measurement we go down to when judging it before it becomes somewhat farcical.
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Had VAR overruled that, I think I’d have turned the game off. After the new handball rule, this “getting the offside millimetre ruler out” is also getting somewhat farcical. They’ve got to start giving a bit more leeway – we’re not playing the game at the atomic level!
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Was chatting to a Bolton fan recently, and though it might not be a primary factor in all this, he said one of the mistakes they made when they built the new stadium some decades ago was that it was located far too far out of the city centre, which obviously adds difficulties to some fans attending as well as simply not being able to draw people in who might already be in the city centre.
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It’s as though bureaucrats, who have never kicked a ball in their lives, are now setting the rules. Are players in the box now supposed to wrap their arms behind their bodies, whilst also maintaining their balance?
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Come back Banjo! 🙂
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It’s a shame Spurs couldn’t strengthen further up top over the summer, it would have taken them up a notch in that they’d now be able to capitalise on these equalisers as opposed to somewhat playing the game out.
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