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At least it’s not like ziyech at chelsea where the attitude outweighs the talent.
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I agree he is very good despite his attitude. Said yesterday he deserved assist for the first time pass to martial on his left foot that led to the opening goal.
Not to get drawn in to any arguments that he is over rated I just think he deserves to be rated as a very talented number 10.
He will frustrate utd fans as much as opposition fans at times I think but his talent is clear.
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Yeah that’s what I thought Ed it would make sense
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Ed, FYI, I have found that only happens to me if I am signed out. When you sign in you tick a box to keep you signed in and that works for most part but now and again I am signed out when I come to site and have to sign in to post, in those cases I find the first post is flagged awaiting moderation as though it is a first time post from a new user.
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Lol Paul you silly bugger you trolling yourself or what? 🤣
The last 3 years are a decent sample and don’t need a season ticket to aggregate appearances.
17, 12 and 12 out of a possible 106 prem games is less than 40% of games and whether its injuries along with not being best option for roles available it doesn’t matter.
That’s life at a top club unless you are truly world class in which you always start when fit.
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Yeah Ed I personally feel top 4 is sorted too. Have think Newcastle loss to villa is a one off.
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Paul, why you feel the need to go over the top like this regards stones just because someone, can’t remember who, once said years ago that he didn’t think stones was that good, I don’t know. Seems petty to me.
I’m not having that he is a great player all of a sudden mate. He is a very good ball playing defender who has hardly featured for you in the prem league for last 3 seasons.
He is now pivotal in your team as Peps system requires a player who can defend in wide area’s out of possesion and play as DM in possesion. Zinchenko and cancelo are no longer there, ake and walker can’t do that job, hence stones is now featuring regularly in a role that really suits him and he is doing a very good job.
If you had a better option to do the role from the left side instead of right I am almost certain walker would be defensive right side and stones would be on bench. But I am only basing that on what pep did when he had those options, ie zinchenko and cancelo.
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Lol banjo it was long enough just considering the prem league era only. I had to start with “in the beginning there was 442” 😆
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P.s threeps, as I said above, but I said a lot lol.
“Whether it be through incredible collective pressure and counter like pool or more methodological and precise tiki taka like pep, it takes the absolute best coaches and a very suitable quality team for this system to be META.
But when you look at their points totals for those years, as different a the styles were, the system was META.”
That’s regards to the 433 3.0 which both city and pool employed with much difference in style but identical formations I’m and out of possession
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Yeah threeps there is a lot of variation to style and approach in terms of compactness, tempo, style of press, preferred atracking areas etc all relative to the players and their strengths… but underlying it all are basic formations in and out of possession that in themselves have advantages and disadvantages relative to opposition set up.
The 325 in possession is perfect to create overloads and space against pretty much every system currently employed but you need very specific types of players to do it like pep does and defend with a back 4.
I have seen city in 442 out of possession and a 433 and I think that’s something that can vary and should vary depending on opposition set up. Although that being said a 433 does have advantages if your aim is to press as high as possible. A 442 can not effectively press a 433 for example unless it becomes a 4411 and one of the strikers drops deeper to press opposition DM.
As I said the META for me is more clear in possesion as a general 325. Out of possession while a back 4 is preferable to a back 5, other than that there is a bit more flexibility in the out of possession structure.
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Didn’t bother mentioning 4231 that Jose won his 3rd title with as its basically a slight variant of 433 and didn’t last as elite META because its too defensive and is better suited to the decent teams than top teams in this league imo.
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Bruno deserved an assist there but martial let him down. Thankfully for utd they had someone in position to take advantage but it was a great first time pass with left foot from Bruno.
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YB, you are very correct to give the credit you do imo 👍
But only one team will win the title and be the true winners, not to dismiss the spirit of your post which was spot on.
They do have potential to get better but so do utd, Chelsea and pool and so I am not sure Arsenal will get a better chance than this in next few seasons.
They will if they deserve to though and that’s all that matters
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Arsenal have played one game more with 4 point lead. A draw at city would still be enough to win title providing they can match city’s results in remaining games but it will take nerves of steal for them to get over the line. I can’t help but favour city again now but it ain’t over until its over.
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If arsenal give up another 2 goal lead this weekend I think they will lose all belief. That could be a big miss from saka.
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In other words he has not been first choice for pep for years.
Now that pep, inspired by tuchel, has come up with a way to improve on tuchels chelsea system he has a perfect role for stones in absence of zinchenko and cancelo.
If you want to swat away my comments re tuchel, watch this first and see how what he is saying about chelsea applies to you now, with exception that you are doing it better. He said this about us at the time chelsea beat city 3 games in a row culminating in champs league final.
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17 prem appearances this season and 12 each for the previous two seasons
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/101374/History/John-Stones
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Paul I’m not decoding that just tell me if he played more than half the games he has been available for. I don’t think he has.
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Yeah of course nil, a point at city is all he needs if they can win the rest
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And as for ake when we were linked with him I saw the sense in it as I have been aware for a while that the META at top level right now is a base of 3 at the back when in possession and to do that well the outside centre backs need to be of a special profile and be able to defend wide as well as central. His left foot and competency at left back and centre back make him the perfect profile for the role he is playing.
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