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And a fluke is a fluke at the end of the day CM, shouldnt put much weight on that one result thats all I am saying.

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Yeah CM, but city dominated both games, thats the difference. 9 times out of 10 palace would not have won the game they won against city at the etihad last year, but 9 times out of 10 city would have still won the game they won at selhurst. Given this and how eager city will be to bounce back it is very unlikely palace will get a result. Would love to see it and you never know, but I see a thrashing on the cards to be honest. City to win by 4+

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I dont know Chelsea man, personally I had forgotten he even existed until he came out with all this, so not sure the press are treating him disgracefully at all, Arsenal are paying him circa 350k/week so they are not treating him disgracefully either.

I think he just doesnt fit with the way Emery wants to play. He is a very talented player but if he is not willing to take a pay cut to play regularly elsewhere and would rather stay at Arsenal and pocket the money for doing nothing then I dont think he has any right to complain and should just shut the hell up.

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Jose and Keano the pundits for Sunday!

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Fancy City to hit Palace for 5 to be honest Nine, for sure they will be well up for this.

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Tough game for you against sheffield stevo, think you’ll have enough up front to get the points though.

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Any shocks this week then you reckon lads? I think Burnley could surprise and turn Leicester over away. Everton vs West Ham is really difficult to call, want to go West Ham but just feel Everton have to get a result soon. Dont see utd beating Pool but you never know, could scrape a draw.

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You say “making the same mistake again” but in my opinion, giving Ole the job on a temp basis wasn’t the mistake. That was a stroke of genius. Giving him the job full time was the mistake.

I completely agree ed and thats what I meant if you look back at that post.

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Stevo, G.Nev would agree with you, he said himself utd have gone down the route of appointing top managers and it hasnt worked, so it logically follows according to him that shit managers need to be given a chance instead, he fits the bill perfectly 😉

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Nine, I think its all PR mate and short termism to get til end of the season. If utd genuinely believe with time and players that Ole is good enough then they are royally buggered imo.

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Ed, was just thinking, but if Carrick would accept the caretaker job until the end of the season in the understanding that how ever well he does he has no chance of the job full time, then that would be a decent shout by yourself to be fair. I just dont see how any established/experienced managers would accept it but that doesnt go against your thinking here.

Personally I think Poch will be appointed by Utd by July next year, whatever happens in between. Just feel its the perfect fit.

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Thats fair enough ed and I understand. But it is implicit in your description of the caretaker that he would not be a top manager in his own right, no top Manager wants to be a caretaker, right? That means the guy who comes in will hardly be any better than Ole. This then puts you at risk of making the same mistake all over again as what if the uplift is good enough to get the majority of fans behind the new caretaker and motivates Woodward to give another mediocre manager a contract? You know that is very possible and you know who ever the caretaker would be they would have their eye on securing the job full time. What if the caretaker does even worse? That is possible too. For your scenario to really be worth it imo the caretaker would have to do better than Ole but not too much better. If he does worse, the change will be a mistake, if he does much better you may be stuck with another average manager next season and that would be a mistake too.

I see your argument here, but I am suggesting the board plan as though Ole is the caretaker and plan for a change in the summer.

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everyone knows Ole isn’t good enough so why delay the inevitable.

Agree with the first part of that ed, but there is good reason to delay the inevitable if the right manager isnt available right now. If you accept that top 4 is out of the question this season whether Ole is in charge until May or is sacked today, then appointing the new manager now may be counter productive as things will not get much better with the squad he will inherit this season and ideally you would be wanting to go in to the new season with a brand new manager on top of a great transfer window and full of positivity. There is always a risk that appointing someone now could result in negativity towards the new manager before the end of the season, we are talking about players that got Jose and Van Gaal the sack mate, and they really are as top drawer as you can get in terms of managers. When are utd going to realise that appointing great managers isnt the solution, backing them is.

Funniest and most stupid argument I have heard regards utd, and one made by G.Neville, is that utd have tried top managers and it didnt work so need a new direction!!! It is laughable but Neville has argued it multiple times and seen it on forums too. Really twisted logic.

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I think you seem to be in the minority on this ed which is why I made the “not a wind up” disclaimer, but as you can tell from my original post I am in the minority with you on this mate. You are Manchester United, a good manager with good recruitment and things could get better far more quickly than the majority seem to think.

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Threeps and Mikus, the bottom line imo is the players the manager has, step 3 from my original post is the most important step, and the one I dont think utd have the structure to or vision to succeed in.

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Ha!

Dont mean to sound petty or nasty here, but utd getting relegated would be brilliant!

Dont get offended utd fans, you know you would have loved to see Chelsea get relegated under jose in his last season, its just being honest, and besides, you arent going to get relegated anyway, its just a sadistic fantasy held by many non utd fans.

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Sean I agree the Derby isnt dead at all mate, if its dead because one team is challenging for the title and the other is miles away then it has pretty much always been dead as that has normally been the case anyway, except utd have been the ones challenging and pool have been the ones lagging behind. Just because that has reversed it doesnt do anything to change the fact that this is Liverpool versus Manchester united.

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I think this vid hits the nail on the head, what do you reckon my spuddy cyber chums?

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I have seen a few similar posts on varied threads seeming to suggest that solskaer’s job is on the line depending on this one result, ie get battered and he is sacked. Any one else think this is stupid?

I mean I will be absolutely clear that Solskjaer is imo not good enough for utd, but why would it take a battering off the champions of Europe to prove this to the utd board?

I know Jose was sacked after losing to pool but my feeling is the decision was made before then and it was decided to wait until after the pool game to make the change, I dont for one second believe that one loss was the reason Jose was sacked and I think similar with Ole, If utd lose to pool and he is sacked it will have very little to do with the game imo, and would have been decided before, if that is not the case then utd are officially as stupid as they are profitable.

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Yeah Stevo I cant believe the fixing allegations either, its not rational. He was for 20 years one of the highest paid managers in the world, the risk of losing everything for 30k bribe? I dont think so.

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