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Will do, cheers Nine.

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No way is that Derby dead!

As a neutral I just wish there was a late winner, either way. Is funny how goals change games, if pool had played like they did after the goal for the full second half they would have very likely won it.

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Might still be good enough for a point!!!!

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Its like Pool have been challenging themselves this season as to exactly how below par they can be and still get 3 points, looks like they’ve found the limit today. Really poor stuff this second half

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Gives the neutral a rest from “ole, ole, ole” though mak 😉

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Fans singing “Jose Mourinho!!!”

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I think Klopp is fuming Nine, hope he calmed down for the team talk.

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Lol, read your mind Pagan..

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Like Pagan has said before Mak, its to make it black and white for VAR.

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What a first half!!!

the goal disallowed was handball and was bound to be disallowed. I do think there was a foul in the build up for utd’s goal but we all know that the bar for VAR over ruling the ref is so high you’ll need to smoke some wicked stuff to see it 🙂 Was a foul though and we would all feel hard done by if our team conceded a goal like that.

Klopp looked shaken up on the touchline.

I still fancy pool to turn this around, but happy for the utd fans on here that they are getting the type of performance they deserve for a change. Great game.

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That fair enough nine, but it wouldnt stop anyone strolling down Fulham road 🙂

The way I look at it more and more people are watching the 3pm’s anyway, only a matter of time before the prem league decide they may as well get in on it and provide the games themselves, and rake in some more commercial revenue.

On the subject of walking down Fulham road nine, I started a new job a few months ago and the last few days have realised that thankfully I will have enough disposable income to afford a few trips to the bridge each season. Was looking on the club site today to see how tickets can be purchased and even scouted the route (will be 5 hours each way by the looks of it). Will register as member in new year and look to get a couple of games in before end of season if I can. Any advice you can have for a standard club member getting tickets please let me know, been 20 years since I been to the bridge last 🙂

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But the subscription for the “armchair season tickets” would be received by the PL not the clubs directly. If they were distributed evenly it wouldnt be detrimental to the smaller clubs, and if it led to more revenue overall then it would be better for every club.

I completely accept how ever that as it stands the PL and the clubs it represents are convinced this way makes the most money, I just hope as things develop there will be better ways that give us, the consumer, better value for our money.

Like I said earlier nine, in the US where the average person doesnt give a monkeys about prem league football they can have every game for less than we pay to see a tiny fraction of the games. It is inherently unfair and inconsiderate of the fans who generate the most income, the whole world combined pays only just over half what we provide for the prem.

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Technically the vast majority of networks are owned and run by Openreach, independently of BT, supposedly anyway, but ultimately BT own openreach. OFCOM ruled they should be run independently and open reach have to treat all comms providers equally. As long as the prem league could generate more commercial revenue in the future this way then it is the way things are likely to go imo, SKY would become needless middle men taking a cut from what the prem league get can directly in that case.

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67, Good msigning for Inter, but watched him in game against Juve and he was absolutely useless to be fair.

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You’re right Pagan, it is a nothing more than a dream for me to believe the money could be divided equally when the top clubs, my own included, will fight it tooth and nail and get what they want through threats of break away leagues.

P.s, if the even the circus that is the world wrestling federation can do everything in house, so can the prem league. Dont need satellite when the whole country is on fibre broadband, thats not far away mate.

The bottom line is your last point though, and that is where this discussion ends to be fair mate, you are spot on.

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Mav I`m going for a 5-1 spanking today,and Ole to get the sack.You got to be cruel to be kind,sometimes…...?

You really think united will score? 🙂

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Thats true mate, but only if the total money received by the prem league isnt divided equally.

My ideal would be for most games to be played at 3pm on saturday with all games simultaneously broadcast. One game would be played later in the evening as is done now at 5:30pm. Then teams playing in europe if needs be can be moved to the sunday and available live.

I would love the Prem league to take all this in house and offer a season ticket which allows you to watch any game you would like at 3pm on a saturday and any other game shown live at a different time. Over all this is sure to increase the total number of viewers that watch prem league games live. I know the old argument is that attendances at the ground would go down if all games are on live, but it doesnt wash with me as its always preferable to watch from the stands and as long as it is affordable people will always go to the games. Besides, ticket revenue is nowhere near the level of revenue obtained through advertisments and sponsorships received through TV deals so I dont see the net harm to broadcasting every game live to be fair.

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Fair points Pagan, although the highlights issue is a non issue to me as I doubt sky get much people watching their highlight shows when they can watch the highlights commercial free on MOTD.

Footy doesnt just cost more for us UK fans though mate, not only do we pay more we get less, that’s just contempt mate, cant see it any other way.

As for the over saturation bit, let me ask you this; If SKY showed every game live would they get less viewers than if they only showed one? Per game maybe, but not in total, the viewing figures would increase, and so total revenue would increase across the board, surely. This is why I put the blame at the Prem for instisting on fragmenting it all and selling in the packages like they do. Every game should be available for the money the Prem receives.

I suggested Piracy may in effect aid finding the balance you referred to in last post. In terms of the games that are not shown live here but are shown live abroad, the prem and broadcasters have a choice, either show them live in UK so I can watch the official broadcasts and be counted as a viewer for commercial purposes, or they can deny them to me and I will watch online.

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*********************Had to put these asteriks in just so post would not be rejected as duplicate*************************************************

Pagan, your first sentence suggests that should I not have been able to watch Chelsea v Newcastle I would have been more likely to have watched Palace v City, the game sky paid for, and that is neither true in my case nor substantiated to be true of football fans as a whole. The highlights advert revenue doesnt really count for much either as match of the day have rights to the highlights and are commercial free and funded by licence payer, because of this Sky cant claim exclusivity to the highlights any way.

I do agree that piracy of the games shown by BT and SKY will lead to lower viewing figures and lower revenue’s, I was making that point earlier and its the Prem leagues job to ensure they provide the consumer with as good as value for money as possible because every fan would prefer to pay for quality broadcasts over pirate streams when comfortably affordable, just as every fan would prefer to watch the game from the stands instead of the armchair.

Your second para presumes that the 5 million people dont support a team of their own and just need to watch one game, any game, each saturday, and that the broadcaster has paid for the exclusive rights to fulfil this need and show one game. Thats not what the 5 million want at all. The 5 million is made up of fans of many clubs, and they want to see their team first and foremost. But of course, as above, people illegally watching the game the broadcaster shows will reduce the numbers.

Ultimately international TV rights bring just over 3bn to prem, UK alone brings in over 5bn, why does the rest of the world get much better value for money than us? They can see any game live. Dont you agree that the fans are being treated with a little bit of contempt when you consider the convoluted way we are sold games to milk as much money as possible without giving us everything they can give? I agree with Nine in that the broadcasters are not the bad guys, but I do think the Prem league are.

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Think I just broke this thread! Reply wouldnt show up, so went back and copied my post to post again and its said duplicate even though my original post wasnt posted.

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