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I’m still not convinced by Potter. I don’t think he’s bad but ready for a top top position? I rate Eddie over Potter
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I’d say this is more about securing an alternative before that person is no longer available otherwise they’d give him more time. Poch must be lined up
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I’m starting to think that the CL win for Chelsea was more to do with Kante than Tuchel. The last two seasons under Tuchel seems to show no Kante, no Chelsea.
As for Philips, I really rate him, he was just blighted with injuries last season. In terms of a move for his career, I really thought Man U would have been a better move for him than City. I think he will play, especially as the fixtures start to rack up and Pep begins his merry-go-round of selections and refreshing his squad.
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There is no doubt in my mind that Rodgers is trying to get fired so he can get paid out. The comments recently certainly suggests this!
I agree with you Nine, I don’t want to see him go as the alternatives won’t be any better. I still maintain that we have a top 10 squad as it stands but if we have a manager who is doing his best to lose games right now in order to prove a point to the board then I think he does have to go. His decisions have been baffling. Nearly every foxes fan has the same opinion about which players he should be picking and yet he goes for players we all wanted gone from the squad. He really is sabotaging the team right now._____________________________
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Just watched the Utd game. Can’t believe this is the same team that lost to Brentford. So much more desire and hunger now. Great to see. I did think the disallowed Martinelli goal was wrong. If that foul had happened in the box the ref wouldn’t have reversed the decision. Very soft, it was technically a foul but for me VAR shouldn’t have overturned it.
I must be the only one who actually thought the decision against the Hammers was the correct one. He did foul Mendy
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Expected the loss but not through being so poor. Man U really weren’t that good but we showed no desire. Thought Rodgers set us up way too defensively and then waited until 70 mins to change it. Why you would play one of the best defensive mids in the league at CB when you have Soyoncu on the bench is beyond me.
The formation was so negative, Vardy completely isolated, growing very impatient with Rodgers now._____________________________
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My earlier prediction is looking like coming to fruition. I really can see them running away with the league, if they can have injuries go their way. Still reckon they need to tidy up I defence, but that should come as the season progresses. With Haaland they really are a different proposition! If they have the league as good as sewn up by New Years we could see the CL drought come to an end
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Agree about Chelsea. At the start of last season IMO they had the strongest and deepest squad in the league. To finish 3rd was a huge under achievement.
I’m worried about the game on Thurs, can’t see us winning it with the way Utd have bounced back and I fear it will be Rodgers’ last. We really need this window to close so we can get on with playing with the squad we have
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I still think Liverpool will finish second, they are easily still the second best squad in the league and should finish comfortably ahead of 3rd IMO. I think you are right though, I can’t see this being a two horse race. I suspect City will have a very comfortable lead by Jan/Feb. I do think there are far more dangerous teams than there ever have been this season. So many teams can and will push those traditional top 4 teams I think. Arsenal are playing well and finally have a squad to put away some of those top contenders, same for Newcastle, who I expect will keep building their squad throughout the season.
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Gotta say, that is the most hearty performance from a Utd team in two seasons for me. They all worked hard as a unit for once, which was rarely ever seen under Ole and certainly was not present under RR.
Could this be a turning point? It certainly sets a blueprint to the players to prove that working hard together pays off. They’ve just outworked the hardest working team in the prem!_____________________________
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What an absolute passing masterclass from KDB. He was splitting atoms with those passes. Such a joy of a player to watch
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Nine, if you watch the game back they barely had a shot until after we scored and then Rodgers decided to make weird substitutions and make us sit behind the ball. That’s when they racked up the chances, not before
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I think with Rodgers right now there is mental games being played with the board and if so, it’s pissing me off. The lack of transfers and the off-field management of the squad (Kasper leaving on the eve when Pope and Henderson were both available only weeks prior, Fofana being left out of the squad due to possible transfer when he only signed a 5 year contract weeks prior) are nothing to do with him. However, why the #### he is picking Amartey and Perez over Soyuncu and Tielemans/Albrighton I have no idea. I feel like it is a show of petulence from him to the board to show them he doesn’t have the squad to compete, when in reality we have a very good strongest XI available, he’s just refusing to pick it.
We have lost two games now we had no business losing, we dominated and created the most chances in both games, the opposition were terrible in both and yet they won both. The selections and uncertainty are really hurting us. I’d rather the window be shut now so we know what players we are moving forward with for the rest of the season, this window still being open is plaguing the squad mentally. I still believe that with this squad and no more major injuries we could fight for a top 6 spot, but we need momentum and there is currently too much uncertainty._____________________________
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Spurs v Wolves – Draw
Palace v Villa – Palace Win
Everton v Forest – Forest Win
Fulham v Brentford – Fulham win
Leicester v Saints – Leicester win
Bournemouth v Arsenal – Arsenal win
Leeds v Chelsea – Draw
Hammers v Brighton – Brighton win_____________________________
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Ok, fair points, but what chance would a really top manager have at Utd with a dysfunctional board???? They don’t have to be mutually exclusive of blame, but if the board that appoints managers and seems to make player acquisitions is faulty you are setting both the managers and players up for failure. You can’t keep “fixing” one part of the equation without fixing the source of the problem.
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Did Ole play the Man Utd way? He relied solely on counter attacking football, sit behind the ball and hit them on the counter. Since when has that been the Utd way?
Ed, it clearly is not the managers’ faults. How many have you been through now? How many of those had excellent records before Utd? You say they’re all shit now, is that what Utd did to them though?
I honestly don’t see how Ten Haag will do any better than any of the predecessors with this environment.
I can’t help but wonder what Mourinho would have done with the money Ole was allowed to spend? Guess we’ll never know, but I really do think Man U have done themselves serious long term damage here and without the cleanout at board level nothing is about to change anytime soon. Fuck me, if reports are correct, you’re about to sign a 31 year old for 50 odd million! Just more throwing shit at a wall and seeing what sticks.
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Lucky, what is the right manager? In the board’s eyes, it seems to be one who can help them win. Ole masked that with his fluke season finishing second. Any other year, no covid and I can’t see how he could repeat that. Once he stopped winning he was sacked. My point is, what constitutes “the right manager”? I’m arguing that Moyes, LVG and Mourinho were possibly the right managers but the board decided otherwise. They could get Pep in and he would fail at Utd because of how they are run.
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The only way I see the Glazers leaving Utd is if the US invades Canada and the rest of the world imposes an economic embargo on all US citizens and their assets.
…as such, under their leadership, back to my original point, who in their right mind would go there manager-wise???
Lucky, you talk about a project with backing, how did that work out for Ole? Got longer than any other manager since SAF. To genuinely turn this Utd team around and be competing for the league again (because nothing short of Champions should be acceptable to Utd) will take a minimum of 5 years and/or Klopp and Pep leaving their clubs. Also, people seem to forget that no less than 12 months ago many many (double many) people, pundits and fans on this forum were saying Utd were a genuine chance of winning the title last season. Ability-wise they can’t really have too bad a squad of players then. The only players they have lost since then are a bunch of free bus-pass applicants and a whining prima donna who never did anything anyway.
To me, Mourinho WAS the right manager for Utd at that time. He WAS the one to rebuild them to the profile they once were. That squad needs tough love and a boot up them. Unfortunately, the board, the fans and the like saw otherwise and gave the job to a helicopter parent still driving with his L-plates, who smothered the players with love instead of telling them they needed to work hard for their shirt. Because of this move you now have the lowest running team in the league, a bunch of players who no matter how little effort they put in will get a cuddle at the end of it. But, like I said the management of the club fostered that culture with the Mourinho/Ole move.
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I really feel like the window has gone for Poch to go to Man U. I’ve been an open fan of his for a long time, however I think too much damage to both parties has happened for that to be a real option anymore.
Poch never should have taken the PSG role. It was a hiding to nothing. He stood to win nothing out of the move. If you win the league, people will say “so what! Of course you should”. Anything short of winning the CL is a failure there and I’m sure Pep will attest to how difficult that challenge is.
On the other hand, if Ten Haag fails I really think Man U will struggle to get a really top level manager again for a very long time. I mean, if you are top manager and have options why would you go there? They have proven they are a basket case from top to bottom, again the chances of gaining anything for that manager is very slim.
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I’ve said for a while now that I really admire what Klopp has done at Liverpool. He is the king of getting every single ounce of ability and workrate out of every player. Pretty much every player he has touched has exceeded their actual potential in my view (a few exceptions maybe). However, I’ve also long held the view that this tactic is not sustainable over a long period (ie: creating a dynasty a la Ferguson). It’s akin to revving an engine to the red all the time, it may win you a few races, however the long term health of it is perilous. The amount of work expected from his midfield is crazy in my view. I have been shocked that his midfield has operated at such a high work rate for so long
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