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We have been heading the same direction as the Belgium national side. We have the best selection of players, yet we do not have the right man in charge to lead them to success.
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What a result.
Liverpool controlled the game in the 2nd half. Antony goal at the end changed everything.
What a game, what passion. Reminds of the good old days when both teams were on top. A proper bragging rights game.
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Rashford can piss off this summer!
Liverpool have not been great, but you don’t have to be against this United side.
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Let’s get back to talking real football.
Who’s better Scholes, Lampard or Gerrard?
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Gents the game is a day old now. Whatever has happened has happened. Let’s agree to disagree and move on.
No point getting personal. It is only football in the end.
Hope the below helps.
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Agree with Mak.
There should be a police investigation towards City. They should investigate their fans too, all 30 of them.
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VAR was brought in to end these debates. Yet we seems to talk about refs decisions even more. Before you could put it down to human error or whatever other reason people used.
With VAR there shouldn’t be an excuse for mistakes and teams should not be getting the rub of he green.
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If United were owned by the UAE state and there were PL refs officiating in their league, wouldn’t you be saying the same going. You pretty much implied United were corrupt when Howard Webb was ref and how Liverpool are getting favourable ref decisions.
It is just constance sniping at other clubs, at times insinuating corruption and ignoring your own club links and wrongdoings which put posters off at times. I stopped posting here when I use to read your comments.
I hope you reconsider because I believe you are a good poster most of the time.
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Remember the opening weekend of the season when Onana clattered in to the Wolves player. The discussion went on for weeks. How official are helping United etc.
Like I said before, certain clubs avoid any negativity at all. That was a stone wall penalty, but the narrative is by the press and Dermot Gallagher contrary.
Sky determine the level of outrage about calls. There’s no planet where if that was a united player fouling, this wouldn’t be the biggest story of arguably the season. They took 30 seconds to say no pen in analysis, and that’s it. Finished.
Their influence on football discussions and narratives is near total and they are 100% pro City, who were abysmal in second half and are being praised for it.
They actively avoid talking about the charges.
They will do anything to protect their crown jewel – PL football. Oliver, the UAE choice ref, has for a second time in a table top game has given city an enormous call
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Michael Oliver didn’t send Joe Hart for this. Years later he is officiating in the UAE super league.
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Iβve not posted as Iβve just got fed up of CMs comments. This blog is not like that.
This is the comment I was responding to by Adlab
Yes Liverpool will win the league. Itβs been preordained . It reminds me of Ferguson days and Howard Webb .
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Mak
The officials today are on the Abu Dhabi payroll.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/premier-league-faces-questions-blundering-31077343
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We saw a glimpses of what Ten Hag could do last season. But like always the players give up. He just doesn’t have enough runners and player who are willing to do a job when the side lose the ball.
The slow transition from the back to attack because of lack of movement from the players and how quickly opposition players manage to get from their box to United’s box because of lack of covering ground and pressing.
This is not only happening under Ten Hag, it is also happened under Ole, Ragnick and Jose.
This is also the consequence for rewarding players for mediocre too. All they have to do is perform for half a season and they will be earning the same or more than De Bruyne, Salah, Van Dijk. So why bother trying.
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Poor performance again.
Not going to bother watching this lot again this season. Part of the reason you follow this sport is to be entertained, not go through drab.
How easy is it for teams to transition from their own box to United’s within a few simple passes.
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I would give Nagelsmann a chance from what the options are.
Think the number of managers who you could trust to do a rebuild and get the club back to the top is limited and taken by rivals or top clubs.
Going by the reports today about players not believing Ten Hag will be at the club next season and how tough is he on them, Tuchel is no a go. Especially with the same being said about Bayern players opinion on Tuchel.
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I’m all for Ange, Tuchel or Poch being considered for the Liverpool job.
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Watching Chelsea this season, I don’t think that is would be the case Mikus.
Chelsea fans have turned against him.Ten Hag 1st season wasn’t a failure. Poch 1st season at Chelsea is.
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I disagree with him being the wrong appointment from the start. It was pretty much down to him and Poch.
You cannot take away what he did at Ajax. There is another example of what id wrong at United. Managers failing to instill their style of play. Van Gaal, Jose and now Ten Hag all failed to do it.
With all of Ten Hag faults, United also have some rotten players with extremely poor attitudes. They turn up when they want to and throw the manager under the bus when they want to. Look how quickly it took Klopp to adapt his heavy metal football. Those were players with the right attitude and ran for the manager. United have too many who are reluctant to do that.
Ferguson had the same issue when he arrived, it took him half a decade to fix the problem. Got rid of some key players like Strachan because of it. Difference between Ten Hag and Ferguson is the people behind the scenes and some fans saw what Ferguson was doing.
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Antony transfer was shocking. Gakpo came close to joining Leeds or Southampton that summer for Β£25m and he is better player.
The recruitment has been shocking for a long time. But we also seem to get players in who performed for their previous clubs, but arrive at United and become mediocre. This has not just happened under Ten Hag, it has also happened with previous managers.
I also agree with giving a manager time. But only if you see something there and you know there is progress. United have regressed.
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Men against boys in the end.
You saw it coming and they could not continue playing they did, especially with the players City have got.
Congratulations to City.
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