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PS thought De Ligt was very good today
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People were getting carried away by Slot’s start as expected. Today isn’t a disaster by any means but it’s a wake up call for those thinking Slot would just stroll in and pick up from where Klopp left off.
City seemed like they were hanging on in that first half with Brentford seemingly controlling the game at the Etihad.
As for us, appalling first half hour. We sorted ourselves out after that and looked really comfortable even before the red. It changes nothing though. Consistency is the only thing going to save Ten Hag, not one-off performances like this one.
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Fair enough Sean. I know you’re not one to get carried away, ever ๐.
Yeah CM, if he doesn’t find some magic solution during that spell, he’s surely a goner
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CM, he’s had more than enough time now. You can’t be losing 0-3 at home to your closest rivals this long into the job regardless of circumstances. He’s got all the players he wanted pretty much, spent loads on absolute shite. Zero signs of progress whatsoever
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You don’t think the new manager bounce is a thing Sean? There are plenty of stats to back it up. Happens all the time
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So so early to start hailing Slot as better than Klopp Mikus. Look At Spurs this time last season. Everyone was getting carried away by them. Liverpool enjoying the new manager bounce now as expected and will be judged properly by the end of the season. Positive signs but we’ve seen this so often with new managers
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What a shitshow from Utd. Same number of shots on target. We have more expected goals, more of the ball yet stupid defensive mistakes cost us again. Casemiro an absolute joke. Ten Hag won’t go because of this but he absolutely should. Not a single good individual performance today from Utd.
Congrats to the Liverpool fans.
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Yeah sad news. Kudos to Liverpool for allowing him to realise his dream of managing them at Anfield not so long ago. RIP
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That’s the one Chucky ๐
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I predicted Chelsea and Liverpool would get off to fliers with the new manager bounce and they’ve done exactly that. Those two will be impossible to judge properly until at least after Christmas I reckon. This time last season, Spurs had already won the league remember?! ๐.
As for us, I think Ten Hag will be gone before Christmas with Ruud stepping in. Not convinced there’s enough of a change since last season but I hope I’m wrong.
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Not convinced by Ugarte either CM. Looked like a good prospect at Sporting Lisbon but has massively regressed since going to PSG. With that said, PGS (a bit like us at times) can be a bit of a graveyard for big prospects who go there. He does well for Uruguay by all accounts but then so does Pellistri who has always looked average when given the chance for us. We’re signing some proper players at youth level but I think it will be a while before we start to see the benefits of the improved structure at the club in terms of recruitment at senior level.
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Martinez didnโt look completely sharp yesterday Sean, admittedly and had a couple of mistakes. Aside from those mistakes, there are few better than him at playing those line breaking passes from deep and the way he resists the press as good as any defender in the league for me. With sharpness, heโll be so important to our build up. Genuinely wouldnโt swap him for any defender in the league and thereโs nobody else in our side I could say that for. Proper warrior as well
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Happy with that in the end. Still some problems there but as Alfie said, we lose that game last season. The difference a fit Martinez makes to this side is amazing. Mazraoui looks an absolute bargain also at โฌ15mil
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Fair points Sean and Threeps. Let’s see. As I said, I haven’t watched him much since he went to Bayern aside from a few CL games. I do find it reassuring that Bayern fans are so sad to see him go but that will count for little if he doesn’t perform.
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Seeing a lot of this kind of thing from Bayern fans Threeps. Do you genuinely not rate the guy? I haven’t seen much of him since he went to Bayern but he seems massively rated by the Bayern fans
https://x.com/munichfanpage/status/1824173056425886135?s=46
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I think there are so many unknowns this season. Chelsea and Liverpool will get off to fliers with the new manager bounce. The time to judge them both will be after Christmas in the run in. Utd are a big unknown. As Sean said, if they go back to that open midfield, Ten Hag will be hanging on and the shouts for Ruud to step in will be deafening. Spurs will play their high risk football which will look good in the stats but ultimately deliver very little imo. Arsenal and City a step above the rest and will, I think, have a closely fought battle for the league. City will surely go into the market for some firepower with Alvarez now gone and Bobb injured. Canโt wait now!_____________________________
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Hope youโre all well! Not been on for a while as Iโve been busy. Not sure on De Ligt myself but I know some Bayern fans and theyโre really annoyed by it. They had a petition which got 80,000 signatures asking for him to be kept so he was clearly popular amongst the fans. Could go either way for me
https://x.com/munichfanpage/status/1823433445885780306?s=46
https://x.com/adamjoseph____/status/1821496570195607715?s=46
I think heโll be decent enough without being a revolutionary signing for us. This obsession with turning us into Ajax 2.0 is confusing and downright dangerous in the (likely) event Ten Hag is given his marching orders unless he starts this season absolutely flying.
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Yeah apologies for that Threeps. I think it’s when multiple links are included, it flags it up as potential spam.
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Wow, has it been that long? Rip 999. Youโre sorely missed
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Agree with all that Sean. It was terribly managed. I think in fairness to Ineos, though, they never intended to be making this kind of decision themselves. The people they’re putting in place to manage these things going forward are still on gardening leave, which I think helps explain the uncertainty. That’s my hope anyway. It certainly sounded like Ten Hag was a goner before the cup final. It doesn’t change much for me though. If he doesn’t get off to a flyer, he’ll be gone pretty sharpish.
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