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However, I wouldn’t write off a restructuring of the Club World Cup to make that more like an extended CL.

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I don’t think there’s any chance whatsoever of a Saudi team joining the CL. It’s easy to say “but they’ll get paid load for letting them in”. Sure, but they’re diluting their own product because Uefa want the absolute best players in the world to want to play for Uefa clubs and that’s what makes the Uefa CL the best club competition in the world. You start diluting that by allowing others in from Saudi and MLS, for example, you’re losing what’s unique about staying in Europe and all of a sudden, Uefa won’t be as powerful any longer. The very most would be a wildcard entry from another league but they’ll never get permanent access.

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A resounding no to that last question. 100% they’d have reintegrated him. There is no scenario in which Utd fans would have kept quiet about this. I see Gerrard already wants him in Saudi 😄

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Exactly Ed, and I want to say in all honesty how much I sympathise with you as a fan. It hasn’t been talked about, but as well as possibly ruining his own career he denied you the player he could have been for you, and there is nothing wrong with being gutted about that from a selfish pov either. I would be bud.

It’s a damn shame, but nothing more utd or utd fans could have done to reach a better outcome

That’s exactly how I feel Lucky. I genuinely think he was one of the best young English forwards around and would have made that right sided forward spot his own for years to come. As you say, from a selfish pov, it almost feels wrong to say it but I am gutted, yes. On the other hand, having a daughter myself means I could have never enjoyed his presence in a Utd shirt ever again. I’m gutted it ever happened rather than being gutted of the outcome, to clarify.

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Yeah fair points Sean. I realise the cases are extremely different. I can only think Utd knew there was no way of him ever being found guilty, hence the original plan to reintegrate him.

Seemingly Utd have had a number of proposals for him already. He’ll either run his contract down or go for a minimal fee after a loan I’d imagine. Frustrating, to say the least, for Utd who not only have to pay a lot of money to replace him but get almost nothing for years and years of training and developing him. Still, the price of reintegrating him was always going to outweigh the loss of not getting anything for him.

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It honestly shocks me how little everyone seems to know/care about the whole Partey thing. The Arsenal fans don’t seem to care at all.

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Again, to clarify, not for a moment comparing kicking a cat to what Greenwood is alleged to have done. My point in those examples was to point to examples of players who were the subject of massive news stories where the whole world of football was outraged and boos followed them everywhere yet all of them simply carried on with their careers and nobody cared after a while.

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He should not be employed by my club Lucky. Utd is too big a club for him to rebuild his career at, if indeed that’s what he’s able to do. At a club like Utd, everything is magnified and if he has any chance of continuing within football, he needs to go somewhere where there’s less pressure and scrutiny.

Sean, my point isn’t comparing those cases, it’s simply making the point that there was loads of outrage about all those cases but they all got on with their careers and nobody cares any longer. Who knows what Utd mean in their statement. They’re seemingly privy to some information that we’re not. As you say, the videos were clear as day. Yet here he is raising a baby with this girl. They spoke to the girl’s mother rather than directly to her. As someone with a daughter, I refuse to believe the mother will have covered for him. I just can’t grasp why any mother would protect him unless they know something we don’t. It’s all really odd. I’m just pleased Utd have listened to the fans and made the right decision, more so because we badly need him on the pitch.

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They’re still paying him because, as you said, they have very little grounds to sack him. Of course they’ve had a decision to make. Considering we’re badly lacking a striker, it would have been very easy, considering their findings noted in the statement, to keep playing him and it would eventually go away. Remember the outrage at Zouma kicking a cat? Terry being racist? Partey? Tons of outrage at the beginning then people tend to get on with their lives, particularly here given the findings they refer to.

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Right decision. Huge decision by the club, writing off a player with that kind of value. Sounds like fan sentiment caused them to do a u-turn. Well done Man Utd fans and well done Man Utd. Very intrigued to see who takes a gamble on him.

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Didn’t Klopp famously not want Salah? Top coaches, which I still believe Ten Hag is, simply can’t do every job and where Utd lack compared to other top clubs is that we’ve gone from the board making all the decisions to the manager making all the decisions, which is a throwback to the Ferguson days and is a strategy which has become outdated. There is zero football knowledge above Ten Hag which means that, when the system eventually fails Ten Hag, he will be gone and we’ll be left with a Ten Hag team with nobody knowing what to do with it. Rinse and repeat.

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Fortunate that Adlab. You’re quick to spot any decisions we get! Clear handball from thr Spurs player not given.

That I don’t agree with Mikus. We’ve done that in Di Maria, Falcao, Sanchez, Ronaldo. There’s no secret Ten Hag wanted Kane this summer and we’ve ended up overpaying for a young Danish striker who wasn’t really starting for Atalanta who is now expected to save our season. I said a long time ago that I wanted Ten Hag, but on the premise that his arrival coincided with that of a director of football. That we still have the suits making the decisions is bizarre and Ten Hag can’t be expected to be chief scout, head coach and the rest all rolled into one.

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Shaw I really rate, Lucky, albeit he does have dips in form from time to time which he needs to cut out. RB is a massive problem but not one we’re able to fix this summer. Someone else said on twitter and it’s spot on. This Utd side who struggled to score goals last season went into this one without a fit striker. There’s something wrong there. I feel for Hojlund now coming in with this much pressure to carry. It’ll make or break him.

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Surprisingly quiet about the penalty decision I noticed Adlab 😄. You’re usually all over pen decisions 🙄

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Enjoy that win Chucky. Dodgy pen decision aside, we deserved nothing.

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The worry for me is that Mount and Antony, Ten Hag’s biggest signings are both looking like they don’t belong in this side. There was a real desire in this side right from that home game against Liverpool last season after the diabolical start but the desire seems lacking now which is a huge worry.

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Our season already rests on a 20yr old striker coming in and hitting the ground running. Not great.

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Maddison having a good game here

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Well that was coming. Looks like we’ll be made to rue those early chances.

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Beginning of September by the looks of it Mikus. Yeah Rashford just isn’t a number 9. It’s doubly bad as well because putting him up top means we lose his danger from the left.

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