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They’re still paying him because, as you said, they have very little grounds to sack him. Of course they’ve had a decision to make. Considering we’re badly lacking a striker, it would have been very easy, considering their findings noted in the statement, to keep playing him and it would eventually go away. Remember the outrage at Zouma kicking a cat? Terry being racist? Partey? Tons of outrage at the beginning then people tend to get on with their lives, particularly here given the findings they refer to.

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Right decision. Huge decision by the club, writing off a player with that kind of value. Sounds like fan sentiment caused them to do a u-turn. Well done Man Utd fans and well done Man Utd. Very intrigued to see who takes a gamble on him.

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Didn’t Klopp famously not want Salah? Top coaches, which I still believe Ten Hag is, simply can’t do every job and where Utd lack compared to other top clubs is that we’ve gone from the board making all the decisions to the manager making all the decisions, which is a throwback to the Ferguson days and is a strategy which has become outdated. There is zero football knowledge above Ten Hag which means that, when the system eventually fails Ten Hag, he will be gone and we’ll be left with a Ten Hag team with nobody knowing what to do with it. Rinse and repeat.

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Fortunate that Adlab. You’re quick to spot any decisions we get! Clear handball from thr Spurs player not given.

That I don’t agree with Mikus. We’ve done that in Di Maria, Falcao, Sanchez, Ronaldo. There’s no secret Ten Hag wanted Kane this summer and we’ve ended up overpaying for a young Danish striker who wasn’t really starting for Atalanta who is now expected to save our season. I said a long time ago that I wanted Ten Hag, but on the premise that his arrival coincided with that of a director of football. That we still have the suits making the decisions is bizarre and Ten Hag can’t be expected to be chief scout, head coach and the rest all rolled into one.

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Shaw I really rate, Lucky, albeit he does have dips in form from time to time which he needs to cut out. RB is a massive problem but not one we’re able to fix this summer. Someone else said on twitter and it’s spot on. This Utd side who struggled to score goals last season went into this one without a fit striker. There’s something wrong there. I feel for Hojlund now coming in with this much pressure to carry. It’ll make or break him.

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Surprisingly quiet about the penalty decision I noticed Adlab 😄. You’re usually all over pen decisions 🙄

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Enjoy that win Chucky. Dodgy pen decision aside, we deserved nothing.

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The worry for me is that Mount and Antony, Ten Hag’s biggest signings are both looking like they don’t belong in this side. There was a real desire in this side right from that home game against Liverpool last season after the diabolical start but the desire seems lacking now which is a huge worry.

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Our season already rests on a 20yr old striker coming in and hitting the ground running. Not great.

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Maddison having a good game here

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Well that was coming. Looks like we’ll be made to rue those early chances.

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Beginning of September by the looks of it Mikus. Yeah Rashford just isn’t a number 9. It’s doubly bad as well because putting him up top means we lose his danger from the left.

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Richarlison was embarrassing Chucky trying to win a pen when Martinez went up against him. Onana rightly telling Varane to leave him on the floor. Bruno with probably the best chance of the game with the header. He has to score there.

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Hats off to Brighton and De Zerbi. Sell their best 2 players and have blown 2 teams aways in their first two games. De Zerbi is going to be very much in demand the next time a big job comes up.

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I wonder if there’ll be pundits talking all week about that injustice in the same way they have been about the Wolves one. I very much doubt it 😄

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Tugay, that’s exactly why the strategy has been about offering long term but, generally, low base salaries which are heavily incentivised. So the idea is to ensure they’re still young enough and of a low enough salary to keep them attractive enough on the market should they not make the grade after 2 or 3 seasons. Usually by that time, you’d expect to at least recoup the remaining book value of a player who may have, say, 5 of their 8 years left. Largely because you’ve not given them a huge salary, instead securing their long term future by offering a longer deal.

Take Mudryk for example. After 3 years of amortisation of his 8 year contract, you’re probably going to be able to recoup the remaining £50-£60mil if he doesn’t quite cut it. So, it’s unlikely to be a long term burden unless you’ve massively miscalculated the future ability of lots of players. Some will cut it and some won’t. The ones who do will likely finance the shortfall of the ones who don’t.

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I, too, have no doubt Boehly knows what he’s doing Lucky. Unlike others, I don’t have a problem either with the so called “loophole” of amortising deals over longer contracts to ease the FFP burden. For one, I don’t understand why it’s referred to as a loophole. Who ever told anyone there was a limit to how many years contract you could give a player? There’s a huge risk involved in stockpiling players on long contracts (albeit the wages are generally at a level where they’re still sellable). You’re taking a massive risk where you’re betting on the future ability of a lot of young players. If it pays off, you’re fine. If not, it could get tricky. You’re just simply balancing risk and reward, as every club should be entitled to do.

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Young_blue, you must be on the wind up if you think there would be the same ffp discussions whether Chelsea or Liverpool had bought Caicedo for £115mil. It’s not the Caicedo fee alone people are questioning. That was just the straw that broke the camel’s back. That and the Lavia deal takes Chelsea’s spending under Boehly to approaching a billion pounds in 3 windows, spending which football has never before seen. It’s blindingly obvious that Liverpool buying Caicedo for the same amount wouldn’t have got people bringing up FFP in the same way.

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“Only the home team has that honour” I wish! We couldn’t get a penalty to save our lives last season. Nobody had fewer than us. City had the most, 3 times as many as us.

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Really good summary from the Athletic on Chelsea’s spending and FFP. Basically, the key is to hoover up the young talent like City and Chelsea do for their academies and then use the academies primarily as a revenue stream. Explains also why both clubs have been accused of paying parents illegally to get young academy players to their clubs. If you can get a steady stream of academy player sales, you can spend loads without FFP being a problem.

https://theathletic.com/4775684/2023/08/15/chelsea-spending-money-ffp?source=user-shared-article

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