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Even Wrighty thinks it wasn’t a red 😄
No chance that's a red for Rashford.
— Ian Wright (@IanWright0) November 8, 2023
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Another joke of a VAR decision handing Rashford a red. Looked painful for the opponent but Rashford is looking the other way entirely. Absolutely no intention or malice in that.
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Mikus, I’d have Ange down as more of a Bielsa than a Rodgers. One of those managers who play nice football and, for some reason, have a bit of a cult following but are prone to getting absolutely torn apart at times. Agree about the ref. Thought he did a decent job considering everything. Chelsea were getting in behind way before the reds started coming.
Jackson celebrating probably the worst ever hattrick with a Ronaldo celebration was a bit cringey too 😂
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Oh 100% I don’t think there’s an agenda against Utd Threeps. No doubt we’ll get our share of decisions.
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The problem with the likes of the Wolves decision Threeps (which was 100% the wrong decision and we were fortunate), is that it was an anomaly but people see that and see that it’s Utd and assume it happens all the time. What irks Utd fans though is that Wolves decision was discussed all week on Sky Sports, Talksport etc with everyone being outraged. When we don’t get decsisions, it’s just not given any airtime. The lack of talk around the non-penalty at Spurs a great example.
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Utd seem cursed by VAR lately.
Arsenal, Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Newcastle have all had at least as many pens so far this season as Utd have had all of last season and this season combined.
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Yeah Liverpool will be fine Sean. I said it all through that difficult period you had and I haven’t changed my mind. Even Nunez will be fine. Liverpool create enough chances for his finishing to not need to be great. Top 4 should be no problem with that team. Easily the second best squad in the league and you’ll probably finish second.
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Nunez could have a reel of misses which would probably be unrivalled in world football. I think he’s overtaken Timo Werner in that respect. He must be such a frustrating player to have on your team.
This weekend has just confirmed to us all that City are just a class above any other side. There’s City then a group of 3 or 4 teams who are decent but far too inconsistent.
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See, City, you’re nothing special 😄. Just a shambles now. Used to get annoyed but just expecting it now.
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Spot on Sean. Those Ajax comments are ridiculous. So many questions which should be asked of him. Why force out De Gea and bring in a ball-playing keeper if he doesn’t want to play out from the back? As you say, absolutely bizarre to suggest he doesn’t have the players when he’s bought almost solely from the Eredivisie and, often, directly from Ajax.
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I do think the whole Sancho saga has been quite pivotal in all this CM. He definitely has friends in that dressing room and Ten Hag’s hardline approach is both what the club desperately need in the long term and potentially very dangerous in the short term. Ten Hag’s football relies on a lot of intensity and when you don’t have everyone on side, it can be disastrous.
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Yeah completely agree Threeps.
If he does something big on the International stage again, by all means, he should be up for the award but it’d be a travesty if his achievements in the French league alone saw him win the Ballon D’or. I’m not sure you can ever really separate personal achievements from team achievements.
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He (Antony) really is Sean. Could put up with it if he produced on the pitch as well but he’s been terrible.
That’s it Sean, about Liverpool. Look how many were writing Liverpool off last season and saying it was the end for Klopp etc then one midfield overhaul and they’re “back”. The answer no doubt lies somewhere in between. They weren’t as bad as was being made out last season and they’ve improved this season but far too early to say they’re back yet. Nobody is catching City, let’s face it.
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What would Mbappe win it for, though? Winning the French League with PSG is hardly a big achievement. He’d be in with a shout if France win something again or they win the CL but he shouldn’t be anywhere near it if all he’s won in a season is the French League.
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In fact, there was very similar hype around Conte when he came to Spurs. They’d turned a corner and were being tipped to win the title under him. So, yes, I have a tendency to want to wait a bit before believing any corners have been turned 😄.
Things such as this 🙄:
Are Spurs’ Hopes of Winning the Premier League Title That Outlandish?
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That’s all very good Foxy. I don’t think anyone is saying otherwise. I just think we, in football, tend to go overboard on hyping things up prematurely. I fail to be swayed by 10 or so games into believing anyone has turned a corner. There have been so many promising manager spells which start great, the fans hype them up like crazy then the inevitable collapse happens. I think all some of us are saying is let’s see where they are this time next season.
A mere 6 months ago, the roles were reversed for Utd and Spurs. Utd were heading into their second cup final and Spurs were being torn apart by Conte and a team who their best player couldn’t wait to leave.
Spurs is a much easier place for a manager to go also. Hence why it suited Poch so much (who has struggled since with the weight of expectations at bigger clubs). At Spurs, you can get away with playing some nice football and challenging for a top 4 place. Overachieving is not a huge stretch. At Utd, if you’re not challenging for a title, you’re not good enough. All while under probably the most scrutiny of any club possibly anywhere.
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No I get what you’re saying Mikus. I just think you’re giving Spurs way too much credit for basically stumbling upon what so far seems to be the right fit. It seems like you’re suggesting Utd should have known they needed someone like Ange. Even Spurs didn’t know Ange would work, hence why he was far down the pecking order there, too. If he was such an obvious choice, I think there would have been a queue for his signature, which there wasn’t.
It’s great with the benefit of hindsight and the benefit of a new manager bounce to say “Utd keep going for the wrong managers. If only they’d gone for Ange”. Nobody could have predicted their good start (and that’s all it is so far). If they could, you can be sure there would have been loads wanting to bring him in. The fact he’s almost 60 and only just coming to prominence tells you everything you need to know about his position in the game. The overhyping of his first 10 games is bizarre in my opinion.
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It’s the exact same thing I was saying to you Sean when Klopp was moaning about his defence during that appalling run you had. Klopp had even been there for a good few years by then so it was totally his side. Ten Hag can’t moan about injuries. If he’s chosen to waste all that money on Antony, Mount, Casemiro etc when the playing style is supposedly so reliant on ball playing defenders, he has no excuses at all. Of course he’s going to struggle to build up with Evans and Maguire and Lindelof playing LB but that’s his fault for not identifying that weakness.
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Spot on Threeps also about there being little time to adapt. I like what I see in Hojlund so far but I questioned the wisdom of putting so much reliance on a promising 20yr old with little senior support if he didn’t hit the ground running and I’ve seen nothing since to change my mind that it was a wise investment. Still, I don’t think he’s the problem. Just that he’s not the solution either. Not at present anyway.
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I really do find this Postecoglu hype quite funny. That Spurs have suddenly become an example of how to get it right is laughable. Their managerial appointments have even worse than ours even. Going drastically from one style to another, nowhere near winning anything. All of a sudden the shotgun approach seems to hit the target and after 10 games, they’re suddenly an example to the rest of us. If nothing else, it shows how quickly a club’s fortunes can change.
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