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Mudryk has been awful. Really is a poor player. Antony, who gets tons if stick, has been good. Never stops running.

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When were City last completely dominated like this? 2 shots all game?

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Utd have been absolutely all over Chelsea. Still think we’ll end up with a point at most.

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Villa 14 shots to City’s 3. They’ll probably still lose, Villa, but what a job Emery is doing there.

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Yeah Alfie, I think we’ll see an improved Chelsea after the break. They can’t be worse. We’ll regret missing all those chances for sure

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No idea how Utd haven’t gone in to half time ahead. Chelsea been all over the place. We’ve missed so many chances

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Pep does really become quite unlikeable at times. He gets so touchy with the press. Carragher rightly calling out him out for his little digs

I think I’d have probably won one if Liverpool were owned by a nation state, and pushed the rules so far that the PL charged us 115 times!!

I was actually praising Pep’s team after the game on Sunday 🤷‍♂️😂 https://t.co/EIW3B1AJve

— Jamie Carragher (@Carra23) December 5, 2023

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Welcome back Mak

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*Phil Neville, Chucky. Arguably, even more damning evidence.

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You City fans are a sensitive bunch aren’t you 😄. I don’t know what point you’re trying to prove with these weird blog articles. That Utd got favourable decisions when we were at the top. Yeah we probably did. All big clubs do. We’ve never had referees on the club owner’s payroll though. That’s a new one.

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Ah I didn’t realise Phil Neville had said it Bluemoon. That’s me told 😄

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Ok I admit it Bluemoon. We won everything because of Howard Webb 😄. Your lot have literally got some PL refs on the owner’s payroll so probably not the best debate to get into…

https://theathletic.com/4922732/2023/10/03/referees-var-diaz-liverpool/

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Bluemoon, “City have no luck”. You have to be on the wind up with that! Crazy decision but City have been getting decisions all season. To name a few,the 2 pens against Utd and Chelsea were never pens. Kovacic should have had a red against Arsenal. That’s a red for any other team. City again near the top for penalties awarded after again having the most last season.

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Can’t disagree with those points Alfie and Sean. An absolute shambles. No desire whatsoever. Can guarantee they’d run their socks off at the weekend if we had a new manager come in this week. They just do it when it suits them. Rashford is a complete mystery to me. This season and one before last he was awful yet last season he looked a world beater.

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Can’t disagree Threeps. I actually missed the first goal. Hate these early kickoffs but yeah you’re right. I still think he’ll come good, Onana. Utd seems to bea place where a keeper’s career is made or broken. De Gea came through it, as Sean said. Difficult to say if Onana will or not.

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I feel for Onana. Another awful mistake from him which has potentially cost us not only the match but qualification to the next round too. His confidence seemed to have been recovering before last night.

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Terrible decision with the pen

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Yeah I get that Alfie and Sean. My feelings are not whether or not it has an effect. Obviously it does. My feelings (and it’s just a personal opinion) are that a manager is responsible for managing a squad. If a team can’t play a certain way because of a few injuries, then that manager is wholly responsible. When I see people making excuses for managers because they’ve got injuries when they’re facing teams with a fraction of the budget of the big teams, it just bugs me.

Now, granted, a manager who is not long in the job and hasn’t built his own team can’t be held fully responsible for ensuring the players deputising for injured players are to his liking/style. But I feel it’s a manager’s job to make sure no player is that critical to a team’s style that the side fall apart without them. That happened with Liverpool and their injuries in the defence and it’s happening now with Ten Hag. It happened with Chelsea and their fullbacks who were/are always injured (James & Chilwell).

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You already know my feelings on injuries Sean 😄. I can cut Ten Hag a bit of slack because he’s not been at the club for very long but I just really dislike the injuries excuse. Utd shouldn’t be putting in the performances we have been doing, injuries or not. I get that Martinez is crucial to the build up but it’s entirely on him that the style falls apart without him. Anyway, enough about Utd from me.

Villa the big surprise for me so far. Emery doing a great job. Brighton looked good again. Top 4 so hard to call this season. City, Arsenal and Liverpool look dead certs to me but that last spot could really go to any of Newcastle, Spurs, Villa, Utd, Brighton. Even Chelsea if they get their act together.

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Yeah Sean, Utd exactly the same. Seen loads of Utd fans wanting Ten Hag out. Would never claim otherwise. Kloppout was trending a lot on social media during that poor spell though. Utd exactly the same. I’m not claiming Liverpool are unique in this respect at all. All fans are the same.

Agree about Wolves and said at the time, Utd got lucky there. Not for a minute saying we should have won those games I mentioned. Just saying it’s been a catalogue of close margins all season, both for and against.

Honestly can’t remember the last time Utd beat a top 8 side away from home. Not great at all and Ten Hag will need to change that or he’ll be gone and rightly so.

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