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It concerned me initially re the charges but the indications are that he is personally in the clear. I’m sure Utd have done their homework here. Going out and bringing in best in class appointments is something Utd have failed massively at in recent years and this, to me, suggests Ineos are taking a step in the right direction

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Wow, that’s going back Chucky! What was it you said about the Liverpool fans not letting go of that VAR decision Spurs got at home to Liverpool? 😉

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Besides Chucky, who called Spurs very, very average? Sounds a bit harsh. They’re decent now. Let’s see where they are in a year’s time once the media hype has died down around Ange. I seem to remember a thread about how Spurs were going to take over the world under Conte… If ETH has proved anything at Utd, it’s to not get carried away by a good first season as it can all soon come crashing down.

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Poor YooUtd… I feel sorry for them, I do sincerly hope they get back to where they belong, hopefully they can spend another billion pounds trying to buy their way back to the top because it just isn’t proper, finishing above them year after year…. etc… etc…

Can we all be honest here? Forget the score, they were largely out performed, and not for the first time this season, by a team that apparently is very, very average, who also happened to be missing 4/5 first teamers…

Maybe it’s time to realize that YooUtd are now distinctively average, years of miss-management (bought upon by nobody but themselves) have cost them and in the most competitive league in Europe, that relegates them to mid-table with the likes of Chelsea and West Ham…

Maybe if they realized this and wound their necks in a bit and actaully understood their “position” in the grand scheme of things, the sooner they might actually find a way out of it.

Look who’s turned into billy big balls after finishing above Utd in a whopping 2 out of the last 5 seasons! Utd fans know where we’re at Chucky and know we don’t deserve anything without earning it. Spurs fans are some of the biggest moaners around when you don’t win anything despite having last won a trophy 15 years ago.

At least us Utd fans are here to face the music. You’re nowhere to be seen when Spurs lose.

I dont think anyone is feeling sorry for utd banjo chum. The media certainly are not. They are all over eth while poch and even eddie howe get a free ride. Chelsea should be getting a much tougher time.

Most concerning thing for utd is their lack of a style of play. Spurs had all those players missing yet they played the way they always play. They are great to watch but so so open and will continue to concede goals.

Completely agree Sean. ETH rightly getting hammered for spending so much and delivering so little. Spurs remind me very much of Bielsa at Leeds. Entertaining, indeed, but way too open to threaten for any trophies. ETH completely at fault for that yesterday. We had the pace to hurt them in behind but completely lost control of the match.

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Frankly, I’d have been embarrassed if McTominay put that last chance way as it would have been so undeserved.

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Fair enough Chucky. Clearly, we see it differently and I think you’d be annoyed if that was one of ours.

I just can’t put my finger on what Ten Hag is doing. He can’t be asking them to play like this so he’s either lost them completely or they’re just not capable of doing what he wants. Either way, very worrying times. Top 4 all but gone. Ratcliffe coming in is promising as they will at least demand success on the pitch unlike the Glazers. But that won’t be an overnight transformation and on current evidence, the first big call they have is whether or not to change the manager.

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I’ll call my players out when they dive. Can’t stand it. I called Bruno out in the cup game. The more people blindly defend their own players for diving like Udogie did today the more they keep doing it.

Congrats on the point anyway. Deserved more in fairness. We were awful again.

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Udogie wasn’t even touched and he was on the floor. Didn’t you see it?

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Are you saying that Rashford one was a dive Chucky? Surely not. Was not a free kick for us, for me. He just lost control of the ball. But a dive?!

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Poor dive from Udogie there. How’s he not booked for that?

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Ten Hag in big trouble if we don’t get control of this game. Spurs are there for the taking and we’re just so timid and don’t look bothered at all.

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Just so poor again from Utd. Making this Spurs side look way better than they are

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Chucky, how about Kyle Walker or Ledley King for the Spurs ones? I guess Ledley was just so unlucky with injuries. I reckon he’d have been in with the top CB shout if he’d not had those injury problems. Same with Woodgate. Walker probably played his best football for City, I suppose.

My top 5 for my club in no order

1. Rooney
2. Keane
3. Scholes
4. Ronaldo
5. Rio

Top 5 not from my club. Again no order

1. Henry
2. Kane/Shearer
3. Salah
4. Kdb
5. Terry

I really can’t separate Kane and Shearer

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But wouldn’t you think the same applies to being a captain, Mikus? Which many of these players were, whether actually having worn the armband or not.

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Yes I remember Utd chasing him for a year or so before he signed for City. Superb player and superb career. Average manager, like so many of the players mentioned in this thread, interestingly. In fact, I don’t think a single one of the names mentioned has done anything of note in management despite a lot of them trying.

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Good point Tugay. I hesitated before pressing submit regarding Kompany but you’re completely right. I think in both cases though they joined as young players so were unlikely to have been able to have the same transformation effect that Van Dijk had coming in at peak age to Liverpool. Both Kompany and Terry had to first establish their place in the side.

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Yeah Sean, I thought about adding Giggs but it’s just impossible to ignore what a scumbag he is off the field. On it, he’s second to none for achievements alone in the league. I do sometimes think thr fact he played on for as long as he did skewed how he’s viewed. In his early and mid twenties, he was unbelievable on that left wing.

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Agree about Van Dijk Nil 😁

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Maldini reborn gifting Fulham a goal tonight with another error 🙄😉.

No, the thing I do agree with re Van Dijk is that he’s probably the CB who has made the biggest transformation to the team he’s joined in the league. Rio, Terry and Kompany all came into already top sides.

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Yeah fair points Alfie and Hightown. Probably right

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