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On the subject of Rodgers, I think he is a very good Manager but not a great Manager. I think he needs to manage abroad for a few seasons to get better. However, a manager is governed as to what he can/cannot do, by the Board, so you have to work with what you have and try and make up with game plans and tactical nous. He does get some things wrong but so does anybody else including Pep, Klopp,Tuchell but they in turn become more accountable.
I also do not prescribe to the fact that, given the funds, Rodgers or anybody of that status will make much difference to the outcome. I suppose it could be argued that if Pep, Klopp or Tuchel were given Burnley Brentford etc they would be successful…..interesting thought I would leave with you all_____________________________
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I think that’s a pretty good summation on Rodgers Brian “good Manager but not a great one” his problems that still continue to haunt him, Celtic aside which is not a great example is he struggles in getting his teams over the line Liverpool should have won the title in 2014 with players like Suarez, Coutinho, Sterling, Sturridge, Henderson and Gerrard in the team they didn’t and then they eventually slipped backwards under Rodgers ultimately finishing 6th in Rodgers last season at Liverpool which ended in an embarrassing 6-1 defeat at Stoke and 12 points from 8 games the following season saw him sacked.
Rodgers rebuilt his credibility at Celtic and the Leicester job looked a good fit and still does but again with CL football within their grasp he hasn’t been able get Leicester over the line not once but twice and they appear to be struggling this season?
Currently Rodgers looks a long way from being offered a top job to me.
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Well, we did lose Sterling and Suarez, with Sturridge’s injury problems REALLY kicking in then too. He basically lost that entire SAS thing just after he’d started it. Gerrard’s age really showed in the following season too, his legs were gone.
I’m not saying he’s a world class manager but I think we’ve got to take these factors into mind when we’re judging him. Would Klopp, Pep or Tuchel have dealt with those issues, along with the kinda poor recruitment that we were known for at the time?
If we can’t agree on the level of competency of Rodgers, we can at least agree that he played a role in bringing the best out of Suarez? People thought Suarez was wasteful before him and I include when he played under Kenny.
Anyway, ya Mikus, he can be a bit naive, or at least used to be for sure. I don’t really watch much of Leicester, so I can’t speak much about how they are now. I’ve kinda lost interest in them TBH. 1-2 seasons ago I was talking about Wolves and Leicester. This time, it’s Everton and West Ham.
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The huge picture of himself hanging in his house doesn’t help his case as far as neutrals are concerned either. It’s one thing having an ego when you’re Ronaldo, Zlatan etc but not when you’ve not achieved anything. It just stinks of arrogance.
He didn’t come out of that Liverpool documentary very well, let’s face it. Agree with Brian. A good manager but not a great one.
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I know it was only the the Dutch League but Suarez scored 81 goals in 110 games at Ajax he was already a very well recognised goalscorer at least in Holland when Liverpool bought him.
Rodgers hasn’t proved himself in the PL to date and his record doesn’t lie that’s not to say he won’t but we’re still waiting.
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Personally I think Rodgers has done well, Got Swansea into the premier League and kept them there, since then I don’t think he’s ever finished below 7th. He possibly could have done better with Liverpool, but he has done well with Leicester, let’s face it Leicester have punched well above their weight………Pagan
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9, 105 goals from 122 games, who had that record in the Dutch League………Pagan
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Pagan, that’s why I said “I know it was only the the Dutch League but Suarez scored 81 goals in 110 games at Ajax he was already a very well recognised goalscorer at least in Holland when Liverpool bought him.” Though as Suarez has proved throughout his career despite his wild side he’s been a much better player than Kezman.
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I agree with most of the above comments. I think Rodgers is a very good developper of talent. The tactics against Palace at the weekend were simply mind-boggling. People saying he would do well at a big club need to ask this simple question. At a “big club” anything short of winning the league or the Champions League would be considered a failure, right? Do you really think Rodgers could do that with the resources? Look at the other managers he is up against! I think Leicester has shown his limit. Taking a mid-table club to the brink of CL qualification is one hell of an achievement and maybe he could jag a spot but I’d say that would rely more on one of the big clubs having a shocker (ie: Man U holding onto to Ole for too long)
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Just an aside and especially for Ed.
I see the Glazers are short of money again selling about £140m of shares confirming that none of the money will go into the club!_____________________________
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Sell whilst adlab while the Ronaldo effect has the share price high and before ole drags it back down again 😁
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It’s a joke Adlab. People wonder why Utd fans still harp on about #glazersout despite buying top players and there’s your answer right there. Praying it’s part of an exit strategy but I don’t think we’re that lucky. The problem is you never know what the alternative is going to be. I don’t want the club to be owned by the likes of the Saudis either so I’m not sure we have much in the way of alternatives.
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Nothing unusual about selling shares Ed. We sold some to a Chinese media outfit but I think with an ulterior motive to establish themselves in China.
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Brian. That’s correct. City shares were sold to an investor to help promote the team in China.
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9, I know what you said, but you used it to belittle Rodgers input to his development, maybe if Kezman had had a manager better at developing talent he could have been a far better player.
What Rogers is doing at Leicester is really good, in the grand scheme of things, Little Old Leicester shouldn’t be consistently up there mixing it with the big 6, and the fact that they are and people are slating Rogers for not qualifying for the CL is a testament to what he’s achieving, I’m sure RatyRatae is fairly content that his club are now expected to be up there season after season……..Pagan
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Sooo…. it seems we have a new Billy Big-Checkbook in town… those fine upstanding gentlemen from Saudi Arabia have bought themsleves a seat at the trough…
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Absolute complete nonsense Pagan!
I did not use anything to belittle Rodgers development of Suarez I merely pointed out he was already a very good goalscorer in Dutch football before Liverpool bought him also Suarez was already at Liverpool for 18 months under Dalglish before Rodgers took over.
Everyone is entitled to express their opinions on Rodgers on here and not be taken to task by you my view is not too different to a lot of other people’s on here indeed I agreed with Brian’s summation of him which was that Rodgers is a good Manager but not a great one.
If your opinion is different to mine that’s fine and you’re entitled to your ooinion just as I’m entitled to my opinion too and nothing you say will change that!
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Wish kroenke would sell his fucking shares to the billionaire in waiting
He isn’t an oil state but he is another beeeelionaire so must be suitably eeeeevil?
Good for Newcastle tho
Some of us think we have it bad those poor fans have had nothing but shit!!Proper sleeping fishy maybe decent stadium snd support …. Any amount of human rights abuse must still be better then Mike Ashley 😁
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I am 100% grateful and content with where Leicester are at thanks to Rodgers. He has genuinely taken us to the next level. Twice he has taken us to the brink of CL qualification. Am I concerned though? Absolutely! Why? Well, we have invested quite significantly and I worry that we could replicate what has happened at Spurs. They amassed a really great squad of players over a decent period of time. They kept getting to the brink as well and Poch took them to a new level also, but could never really get them the whole way. The problem now at Spurs is that talent is now looking elsewhere or already leaving as bigger more ambitious clubs come knocking.
We have some brilliant young talent at Leicester and I’m now concerned that one bad season under Rodgers could see those bigger clubs come in for them. Despite our poor start this season, Tielemans has been absolutely world class since Rodgers started playing him in the more advanced 10 role that Maddison previously occupied. He would be a massive loss to us if the rumours of Liverpool being interested are true. Add onto that that I could also see the likes of Soyuncu, Fofana, Ricardo, Castagne and Ndidi having their heads turned, this is what the club has worked so hard to build.
Here’s hoping Rodgers can still turn this season around. It’s not panic stations just yet but a few more bad results and it could be._____________________________
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Thoughts on Newcastle’s lineup from next season then?
I reckon Conte/Zidane as manager. Mbappe, Pogba and Rudiger all go there on free transfers as well as Haaland for his buyout clause. That should do them for a while 😁
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