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  • #194265
    Adlab
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      Two vg CL games tonight. Can I watch both at once?
      I’ll try!

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      #194266
      nine nine nine
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        Difficult choice of viewing Adlab.

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        #194269
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          Obviously I’ll watch the City game but will have one eye on the other!

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          #194273
          Nike19
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            I thought that decision would be overturned once the Ref went over to the Monitor. It would have denied a goal-scoring opportunity. Harsh for a split-second rush-of-blood.

            The game now in United’s momentum.

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            #194274
            Nike19
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              Wow, didn’t anticipate that. It just goes to show, anything can happen in this game.

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              #194275
              FoxyFoxes
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                not a red for me. Enough doubt that the Brighton player would/wouldn’t have got there first. For me it needs to be clear to overturn the onfield decision, that was by no means clear

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                #194276
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                  Difficult one I think Foxy. I think it probably was a red but I agree it’s hard to argue that it was clear and obvious. More to the point, wtf were you doing watching Utd-Brighton on a strong CL night? 😁

                  Utd were awful for about 80mins. No urgency or desire. Was like watching an Ole game towards the end of his spell there. 3 points is 3 points but there needs to be a real shake up in that squad over the summer. Too many players that just aren’t up to it or don’t want to be there.

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                  #194278
                  Adlab
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                    Clinical tonight.
                    One of those games when almost every shot was a goal.

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                    #194279
                    FoxyFoxes
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                      Yeah, I really thought Brighton were the authors of their own demise there. If I’m honest, and I was a huuuuge detractor of Ole’s, I think they look worse now. At least under Ole you’d have the odd bounce back result where the faithful were given false hope into thinking they were “back”. So far under Ragnick, it’s looking worse. I realise he has a huge job to try and turn things around with little time and personel at his disposal and that Ole’s damage will take some undoing.
                      I live in Australia, where I only have access to the PL games, CL is on a different subscription service which I can’t be effed with. The plus side is I get to see every EPL game wherever and whenever I want. I get better coverage than the average Brit, all for the measley amount of 25 quid a month!

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                      #194280
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                        Just watched the Brighton sending off. Not that clear. Would he have been off at Brighton.?
                        I know this will sound biased but Rangnick must have been watching a different game to me.

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                        #194281
                        Mikus LFC
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                          Man Utd are still poor, yet they do sit in 4th place. Does show that if you still have enough individual quality, you can only fall so far down, though it probably also doesn’t particularly reflect well on the standard of the premier league outside the top 3.

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                          #194282
                          nine nine nine
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                            If Rangnick steers United to a top 4 finish which still looks doable it might well secure him the United Managers job long term which could well be an Ole style mistake?

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                            #194283
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                              Agree Nine.
                              As I said above not sure which game he was watching. Against 10 men. Ole, Ole I hear the shouts?

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                              #194284
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                                There’s zero chance he gets the Utd job unless performances greatly improve. Why would he? They gave Ole the job because Utd were very good when he initially came in. If we greatly improve and he gets top 4, he’ll deserve it. It’s in no way comparable to Ole, who was given the job on the back of his legendary status as a player despite his very mediocre reputation in the game as a coach. Rangnick, despite a lack of actual coaching in recent years, is very respected as a coach. Completely different scenarios.

                                As for Ole, I don’t think he got enough credit for finishing second last season. Things went sour in the end and I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Ronaldo’s incoming coincided with that. I’m not necessarily blaming Ronaldo but bringing in the likes of Ronaldo and Varane, who have won it all, changes the job description massively. You’re now managing serial winners who have demands of their fellow players and manager.

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                                #194285
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                                  If Rangnick steers United to a top 4 finish which still looks doable it might well secure him the United Managers job long term which could well be an Ole style mistake?

                                  What makes it potentially an Ole style mistake though Nine? Hiring a manager on the strength of an interim spell? Should we never hire a manager on the back of an interim spell because one went wrong in the end? I’m not sure I see the logic in that. If Rangnick deserves the job, he should get it because of that fact. It would be silly to ignore him because one interim-turned-permanent appointment turned out badly. He hasn’t yet shown he deserves it so it’s a non-starter but I stand by the point.

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                                  #194286
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                                    Ed
                                    I agree with your assessment. It’s too early to tell.

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                                    #194287
                                    nine nine nine
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                                      Ed, United need to gain a top 4 spot first.😊

                                      Rangnick is not a Manager imo he’s been primarily a Sporting Director certainly of late not really managed at the top level and has only won one trophy of merit in his career the German Cup and that was 11 years ago. His CV likely wouldn’t normally even get him an interview at United in the Summer let alone the Manager’s job.

                                      Be a mistake to appoint him full time just on the back of getting United into the top 4 imo if that’s what he manages to do.

                                      But that’s just my opinion Ed.😊

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                                      #194292
                                      Mikus LFC
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                                        Interesting question they asked on Talksport recently. Who will win the league next? Man Utd or Newcastle Utd?

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                                        #194294
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                                          Ed, United need to gain a top 4 spot first.

                                          That’s exactly what I said Nine 😁. “If we greatly improve and he gets top 4, he’ll deserve it.” It would be totally illogical to ignore him if he did that purely on the basis Ole didn’t work out. Chelsea tried hiring Rangnick. Milan tried hiring Rangnick. I’m not talking him up. He’ll only get it if performances greatly improve and he gets top 4. Zero chance otherwise. I’m just not understanding why he’d be dismissed simply on the basis of Ole failing when their reputations in the game as coaches are chalk and cheese.

                                          Jurgen Klopp: β€œHe’s one of the best, if not the best German coach,”

                                          Tuchel: β€œYes, tactically for sure he [Rangnick] is an elite manager,” the Chelsea head coach said in a recent press conference. He helped me a lot because he was my coach and then he was one of the main figures to convince me to try coaching so he had a huge influence on all of us at this time.”

                                          Pep: “I know he did an incredible job in an organisation like Red Bull Leipzig and Salzburg and has big experience in Germany, is incredibly well known.”

                                          Be a mistake to appoint him full time just on the back of getting United into the top 4 imo if that’s what he manages to do.

                                          Again, to clarify, I’m saying that if performances greatly improve AND he gets top 4, then he shouldn’t be dismissed simply because Ole failed. Without the above happens, he shouldn’t be considered at all, but based on that fact alone IMO.

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                                          #194295
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                                            Interesting question they asked on Talksport recently. Who will win the league next? Man Utd or Newcastle Utd?

                                            Replace Man Utd with any side bar City and I think the answer would be the same. Newcastle are the only side capable of putting up any kind of sustained challenge IMO over the coming years. You may get one-off winners but these two will be fighting it out amongst themselves within 3-4 years.

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