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Salah offside, in real time with the naked eye, you’d be hard to call that either way with any degree of certainty, by VAR standards that was miles offside, was it a clear and obvious error, would you expect the assistant to get that decision right with certainty, the answer is no, so I’d have no complaints if the goal was given.
The penalty, the forwards foot was on the line, so that counts as in the box, was there contact yes, by the absolute letter of the law you can give a penalty, in the real world was it a penalty, I don’t think so.
Have Liverpool been treated harshly, no I don’t think so, it’s just how it is now in the VAR world…..Pagan
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I don’t think anyone ie being bribed, I don’t think there is any conspiracy either. What I think is the refs are now relying on the guy behind var to help out and thus have lowered their standards and the guy behind var wants to back up his mate on the pitch. And its ruining my enjoyment of the game in a big way. When a goal is scored I don’t get excited, I just sit and wait for a couple of minutes while someone tries their hardest to either confirm it is or chalk it off, depending on what the pitch side ref has done.
They still are ignoring the pitch side monitors. Why? The ref in the middle should be the one in control and be the one making the decisions.
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Pagan, admittedly we were fortunate to come out positively when VAR came into place last season and Man City were getting decisions given against them.
This season so far, we’ve been on the wrong end of these decisions and the pen and Henderson’s goal ruled out in successive weeks rightly makes one feel at the very least a little aggrieved.
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How Manchester United influenced referees, year after year after year
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3ps, I agree there.
It’s just the competency and the thought process of the individuals assessing and making judgement. This business with graph lines on computer being one of them.
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Haha Moos, love the way you’ve used a nice independent source to base your view on…..Pagan
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I still can’t understand why the Maguire incident with Azpi wasn’t reviewed?
Seems July I’m not the only one?
“Former Premier League referee Mark Halsey didn’t sound too happy about the situation when asked by Caught Offside.
“I thought Chelsea were denied a clear penalty when Harry Maguire was guilty of a holding offence on Azpilicueta,” Halsey said.
“I understand why it was difficult for Martin Atkinson to see the incident with perhaps players blocking his view, but I do not understand why VAR official, Stuart Attwell, has not recommended a review.”
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9, be careful what you wish for, there is no law that says you can’t grab a player round the neck. Would you still be calling for a penalty if Maguire had held him round the waist?
I’m happy the ref missed it and it didn’t get reviewed, if we go down that road it will be the same as offside where every ball into the box is micro analysed, every set piece into the area will either be a free kick or a penalty…..Pagan
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Some good games today, the sun is shining and I have a day of work free, haha 🙂
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These current Chelsea players are too nice same as the manager and yes we all including myself nice people who like nice personalities, but I can guarantee you if Drogba, Terry and Ballack were playing Chelsea would have won 1-0.
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Moos, that could be applied to Man United to draw out examples in Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Neville, Giggs, Scholes, Rooney…. They were match winners and ruthless.
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According to the Athletic, it was checked and deemed to not be a clear and obvious error. Wrong decision either way though. One of many this season, several of which have gone against Utd.
The game needed a goal though and I don’t think a penalty would have been the only goal had it been given. It would have been a real smash and grab had it ended 1-0 thanks to that penalty though.
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Pagan but to much of that goes on and that’s What var is needed for. That was near enough assault mate ffs. Of course that needs reviewing. Enough of that is let go Far to much
They are absolutely over analysing everything in anyway so why not use it for clear cut fouls? Sorry mate I don’t get that argument at all
Threeps, totally agree. You can’t celebrate a goal. The officials behind var are not improving. It’s ruining the game
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I disagree Moos. Aren’t they all in their 40s now? 😁
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I thought both teams were petrified to take risks Ed maybe later in the game utd pushed on
Dreadful game but both managers seem happy with a point
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Salah was well offside and the correct decision
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Sean, that’s the problem with a review system, in order for it to be used impartially you can’t pick a choose when you apply it as that can be interpreted as bias. Yes there is far to much holding that goes on but I hope we don’t go down the VAR route to eliminate it as that would be another nail in the game as a spectacle…..Pagan
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Agree Sean. Utd were the more adventurous, but not by any great stretch. Certainly towards the end, they were the only side interested in winning the match though. I think Ole set up being happy to concede possession to Chelsea knowing they could be got at on the break but they (Chelsea) just didn’t get forward despite having the ball so much, which just caused a stalemate.
He rightly decided we needed to take the initiative after the break but by then I think Chelsea were more than happy to leave with a point and got what they came for. Far from convinced by Ole but we were the better side yesterday
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Eddy you appeared to be the better side cause all your shots were on target while Chelsea’s chances were more crosses that they almost made contact with or their shots went wide. You need to have a more deeper analytical understanding of the game.
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P.S I’ve no issue whatsoever with Chelsea coming for a point. Ole has a fantastic record against the big sides and a win for Utd yesterday would have been the first time since 1965 we’d have won 3 in a row against Chelsea in the league so a somewhat cautious approach was to be expected. I just personally expected more from them in terms of goal threat. They were very easily dealt with by a poor Man Utd defence who were there for the taking.
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