Weekend Football – Gameweek 20 – Manchester and London Derby

[Mikus LFC]

In all truth adlab, even at our best when we won the league a few years ago, I don’t think we were particularly spectacular but we had that fear factor with that front 3, and we had a midfield at that time that was able to dominate possession.

Now our front players are in transition with some new ones in, Mane has gone and others are injured. But the midfield is pretty catastrophic for me. They’ve declined and aged and we haven’t replenished the midfield in 4 years I think bar Thiago. And whilst Thiago has been one of our better performers I’m just not sure he’s suited to us. We either need a box to box midfielder or a workhorse/destroyer. Defensively we’ve not been brilliant either but I think that’s more linked to the loss of protection in midfield.

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[sean the sailor]

I disagree about thisgo cm. Best midfielder this season for winning the ball back. 6 recoveries againest wolves compared to Henderson 0 and fabhino 1 in that game. Thisgo our best midfielder again todsy when pushed back. He started as the ten in a diamond and we had none of the ball the first half. Klopp to blame for today . Ridiculous formation againest a side whose full backs play a huge better in their attack.

Fabhino had been dreadful and I think hendo coukd be finished. Keita has done well recently and needed to start as he has legs. Thisgo was absolutely vital to us last season and our run from jan coincided with him coming back into the team. He’s the least of our problems at the minute

Robertson was shocking today as was matip. Ox should never play again. I believe we will bounce back again but not until next season. We need to hard working running midfielders. We need them now but we don’t have the money. Huge clear out needed. Just hope Klopp doesn’t walk as it’s the 7th season syndrome

No complaints todsy. Beaten by a much better side on the day. Lucky just to lose 3-0. Salahs touch was dreadful today

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[sean the sailor]

But the defence can’t defend anything that comes in mikuis? We continue to play a high line with no press so why haven’t we changed that ? We concede 6-8 chances every game. Matip was nearly in their half for one of the balls played over Trent. It’s not just the midfield. It’s everywhere. We are poor all over the pitch

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[Mikus LFC]

Did we press much in our title winning season Sean? Don’t seem to recall us pressing that much. Think we’ve been pressing less and less generally speaking as the years have gone by. As I say above, I think we’ve lost our fear factor up top and also our midfield shield plus teams are more confident in having a go at us now. You could argue we should start pressing again but not sure our midfield is capable of it. And if we don’t play a high line is Klopp used to playing that way? So there’s no obvious solution to this mess.

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[sean the sailor]

We nearly won every trophy last year and thisgo was a huge part of that. He’s not dropped in form but everyone else has stouts us. The midfield can’t be blamed for Matips bad pass for the 1st. Gomez taken the loss out of by welbeck

Adlab, I can see Klopp wakking if he doesn’t get a lot of money in the summer. We need players . A centre back and two midfielders . We have let the midfield age and it’s crazy

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[CM]

Sean-

Fair dos in regards to Thiago.

Whenever I think of Klopp style of play. I think of the electric football and a lot of energy being instilled. This Liverpool side lacks that, especially in midfield. That why I believe Thiago is not a Klopp type of player. But I will admit I have not seen enough of him at Liverpool to judge that. I saw him a fair few times for Bayern and he sat in front of the defence pinging the ball about.

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[Mikus LFC]

Not completely absolving the defenders Sean, but think the whole situation could be demoralising them.

Think we were running purely on momentum last year during that run in without being particularly spectacular. We never scored from open play in any of the finals we were in. It was still a good run but I think it rinsed everything out of what was left of that team and now the jig is pretty much up with it.

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[sean the sailor]

Ah mikuis the team played nearly every game they could last season. We were resolute and strong. I don’t forget how absolutely shite we were before Klopp.

We had to win nearly every single game last year from jan which is impossible. People won’t realise how good we had it until Klopp is gone and we revert back to ten years ago.

That’s why I won’t be losing my Shute sfyet a bad season. We could finish 17th and I’d still fully support Klopp

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[Editor]

Liverpool apparently frontrunners alongside Real for Bellingham. Surely, this season’s form pushes him more towards Madrid than he might otherwise have been? Been hearing lots of positive signals re him going to Liverpool but it’s difficult to see him choosing to go there if there’s no CL. It’s more than just not having CL football though, it’s the fact that their biggest asset, Klopp, is showing signs of losing his magic touch.

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[Editor]

Worrying times for Liverpool fans. As Mikus suggested, this sounds and looks very much like Klopp’s final season at Dortmund

Jurgen Klopp believes Liverpool’s dismal performance against Brighton could be the worst of his managerial career. pic.twitter.com/mYoV1zoHsu

— The Athletic | Football (@TheAthleticFC) January 14, 2023

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[sean the sailor]

It’s a bad 5 months Ed. One bad season we should be able to deal with and fully support the manager.worrying times is 2010. We just need to ride the season out and get fresh bodies in. He needs full support from the owners.

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[Mikus LFC]

I understand that Sean, and the recruitment has obviously been poor as well. But sometimes when the party’s over, the party’s over.

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[sean the sailor]

So you want Klopp out mikuis?

Really? The Dortmund ceo said after Klopp left that he shiujd have changed the team and not the manager as they would t have a got manager like him agsin. What have they done since?We won’t see anything like we had with Klopp once he’s gone.

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[Mikus LFC]

It’s not so much I’m calling for his head Sean, it’s more what state his head is in and whether the players are now fully wity him or the whole thing is just getting tired. It can just happen. Like you, I’d like to think it’s salvageable, but circumstances may say otherwise.

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[Editor]

It’s a bad 5 months Ed. One bad season we should be able to deal with and fully support the manager.worrying times is 2010. We just need to ride the season out and get fresh bodies in. He needs full support from the owners.

I don’t disagree Sean. Who would you even get in? Tuchel would be the obvious choice I think. By saying it’s like his last season at Dortmund, I’m not suggesting it will be his last at Liverpool. I think they need to stick by him.

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[sean the sailor]

I don’t want anyone in Ed to be honest. No one can replace Klopp for me. Tuchel is to negative. I love watching us under Klopp. It’s a bad skeleton and the manager needs to be supported

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[Editor]

What did Gakpo play like today? Is he showing any promise?

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[sean the sailor]

He played centre forward. Some nice touches, no one creating anything for him. Hadn’t had one clear cut chance in two ganes

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[cityboy54]

Never mind wether it was off side or not ….we were poor and utd wanted it more…we had 70% possession with 5 shots….what conversion is that

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[cityboy54]

We dont seem to have a plan b anymore…some players ageing a bit now

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