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Chuky…..Wimbledon got. Queen of the South. Southend, Truro
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I donβt think we should rush to judgement on Mendy. These are really really serious charges but Mendy remains innocent until proven guilty
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True but the CPS wonβt charge a case unless they feel they have really strong evidence especially in a rape case
Iβm a bit of a sofa expert having watched every episode of 24 hours in olive custody π
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Rape is very difficult to prove. It is usually one word against another. His defence is bound to be “anything to bag a rich footballer”_____________________________
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No doubt but as I say they wonβt even it bring it to court unless they feel they have strong evidence outside of that
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Sadly the CPS have a bad record here
n the year to the end of March 2020, 58,856 cases of rape were recorded by police forces in England and Wales.
These led to just 2,102 prosecutions, compared with 3,043 in the previous 12 months.
“This is devastating news for victims and survivors of rape, and all forms of sexual violence and abuse. There is no disputing how dismal these figures are,” said Katie Russell from the charity Rape Crisis.
Rape convictions fall to record low in England and Wales
From the point that a crime is reported to the police, to a decision being made in court, there are a number of hurdles that have to be overcome.And at each stage in the criminal justice system, cases are dropped.
As a result, rape prosecutions represent a small percentage of all reported rapes. And an even smaller proportion lead to a conviction – when someone is found guilty.
So, what is going on?
Gathering evidence
The police have to gather enough evidence in order to refer a case to the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) – the body that conducts criminal prosecutions in England and Wales.But there has been an increase in the amount of evidence to consider, often from phones and social media. This has made these cases more difficult for police, prosecutors and, potentially, victims.
Percentage of cases where victims withdraw their support has risen from 42% in 2015-16 to 57% in 2019-20.
Victims’ commissioner Dame Vera Baird said in her annual report that the level of prosecutions has got so low that “what we are witnessing is the de-criminalisation of rape”.She said that some victims withdrew their complaints because “they cannot face the unwarranted and unacceptable intrusion into their privacy”.
“This is because many will be required to handover their mobile phones, so that the data can be downloaded to see if it has any bearing on a possible criminal prosecution.”
In July 2020, the CPS and police scrapped the digital consent form that people alleging rape had been asked to sign. This form gave full access to their mobile phone data.
It followed a court case brought by the Centre for Women’s Justice and an investigation by the Information Commissioner’s Office.
The government review recommends that “no victim is left without a phone for more than 24 hours, with an ambition that victims have their own phones returned within this period, with replacement phones being provided in a minority of cases”.
Getting to court
Once a case is referred to it by the police, the CPS decides whether there is enough evidence to charge a suspect with a crime. Only after this can it go to court.In the year to March 2020, just 1.4% of rape cases recorded by police resulted in a suspect being charged (or receiving a summons).
The CPS has been bringing fewer rape prosecutions over the past few years, which is partly due to fewer referrals by police. This is thought to be in part a reaction to a fall in the number of successful convictions.
The victims’ commissioner’s report says: “Anecdotally, some police officers say the reason they made fewer referrals was precisely because they knew that CPS were prosecuting fewer cases after 2017.”
In November 2019, it was revealed the CPS had previously had a secret conviction rate target, introduced in 2016 – that 60% of rape cases should end in a conviction. It was suggested this may have led prosecutors to drop weaker or more challenging cases.
The CPS called it an “ambition” or “benchmark” and said it had stopped using it in 2018.
The End Violence Against Women Coalition brought a legal challenge, arguing the approach had been unlawful, but it was dismissed by the Court of Appeal on 15 March.
The CPS has launched a five-year blueprint to make sure offenders of sexual violence are brought to justice.
Max Hill, director of public prosecutions said: “It is clear that more needs to be done both to encourage victims to come forward with confidence, and to support them through the criminal justice process so the gap between reports of rape and cases that reach the courts can be closed.”
Rape charges at lowest level for 10 years
Taking back control after sexual abuse – BBC News
In Scotland, there was a 43% increase in convictions for rape and attempted rape between 2017-18 and 2018-19.In Northern Ireland the number of crown court cases for rape fell by about a quarter from 2017-18 to 2018-19.
Per BBC article
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Adders my point isnβt if the case is strong enough to convict as sadly as above it rarely is in these cases
However IMO for a case to be brought to trial the police and CPS at least think he is guilty
Mind you if you get Ronny you will get yourself another rapist that dodged the conviction!
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The stats are very poor. And no doubt he can afford the very best legal team.
I wonder if this is another attempt at charging a high profile individual(and a lousy left back).
If guilty he should pay the penalty and be sacked. No doubt at all._____________________________
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I’d forgotten about Ronaldo. He paid her off if I remember?
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We also rvp, so many examples across football sadly
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I’ve no doubt there are occasions when rape claims are bogus and motivated by the wealth of the defendant, however, when we are talking about 3 different women all claiming attacks took place, that looks unlikely where Mendy is concerned.
Benjamin Mendy case: the defendant faces six charges. He is charged with three counts of rape on a date in October 2020; he is charged with a sexual assault on a female in January of this year; he is also charged with raping a woman on a date this week
— John Scheerhout (@johnscheerhout) August 27, 2021
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Spot on Ed
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Ronaldo has yet to join City and typically I have never seen so many negative press and pundit comments. But why am I not surprised. Here is a sample never mind Sky,
Cristiano Ronaldo is desperate to leave Juventus but will be fickle and demanding at Manchester β¦
Cristiano Ronaldo transfer to Man City shouldn’t affect Manchester United windowManchester United fans propose changing Bruno Fernandes chant if Man City sign Cristiano Ronaldo
Cristiano Ronaldo has pizzazz and is an all-time great – but this feels like a panic move by Manchester City
And more and more, never mind the twits on Sky transfer show. He hasnt even been signed yet. Were he going elsewhere it would be the most wonderful thing ever. I am not 100% happy with this but it should be a good stopgap for a season or two like Lampard.
Yes I know I am biased and paranoid but on this one I am right. It just shows the press bias.PS Who cares what Rooney thinks
Former Manchester United player says it would ‘hurt’ to see Cristiano Ronaldo join Man City
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Adlab, give it a rest. You can be so blinkered sometimes. Linking to articles in the Utd section of the MEN as a way to prove there’s a City agenda is just silly. We can all do that:
Why Cristiano Ronaldo makes more sense than Harry Kane as Man City transfer target
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-city-transfers-ronaldo-kane-21416108Cristiano Ronaldo can give Man City three things they’ve always wanted
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/cristiano-ronaldo-man-city-transfer-21412629It’s strange but exciting
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/58350293Lineker even getting in on the act before it’s even complete https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/14312055054317117471416872
Thereβs no question that @Cristiano would be a great signing for both @ManCity and himself. He turns a βnew moneyβ club into a global giant instantly bringing 100s of millions of fansβ¦.and Ronaldo gets a team thatβs made for him in the twilight of his stunning career. Win, win.
— Gary Lineker π (@GaryLineker) August 27, 2021
I don’t particularly like the idea of Ronaldo going there but Ronaldo has always been in it for Ronaldo. Personal accolades have always come first for him. If there’s nowhere else for him to go, as is seemingly the case, then so be it.
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I don’t think this is a Pep signing. It’s an owner signing. Ronaldo doesn’t press, doesn’t work for the collective, doesn’t do many of the things a Pep striker generally does. He’ll score goals, no doubt about it, but I can’t help thinking it’s a PR move rather than one designed to improve them on the pitch.
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Don’t worry Adders, you’ll be going out and buying a nice new shiny thing next year, and the year after that, and the year after that, and the year after that….
They’re bound to get you the right one eventually!!! π
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πππBut you know I am just about the most biased on here. Not a great fan of Ronaldo. Great player but too much of a prima donna with a narcissas complex for me.
Ed.I have to say its not just the MEN. Spoken to a couple of relatives who are Utd fans and they are absolutely gutted. I asked them why, bearingin in mind how long ago he left Utd, and they both said that he should go to Utd instead. Seems to me that Utd fans will find it very difficult to take. Bet SAF has had something to say too.
Still its not done yet
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Ole’s all over the place threatening to GAZUMP the City boyz….
Now, just how many World Class signings are you lot going to miss out on this week? I’m running out of fingers here….
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Adlab, the time to worry is when you’re not getting talked about.π
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