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Great win for Brentford the fans were brilliant and the standing ovation for Saka when he came on was special.
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Cheers Sean,
honestly makes you Appreciate what has been missed.
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Obviously still so early, but surely Diet Pepsi is odds on favourite now to be the first managerial casualty of the season!
Anyone else go straight to the TT Arsenal board straight after the game with excitement, or was it just me?
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You can’t put someone in charge of a top EPL club that’s not experienced enough, look at Lampard and Solskjaer despite some success they both eventually struggled. Maybe later as they gain experience they can manage at this level but not now.
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I said it when they appointed Arteta that it was an absolutely ridiculous appointment for a club Arsenal’s size. To give a manager his first job simply because he sat next to Pep was a joke of a decision. Whether or not he actually turns it around is besides the point.
At the level Arsenal are at, they needn’t take such a huge risk. A risk which has probably set them back 2-3 years. No sympathy for the club but I do feel for the fans who have been sold a dream that they were getting the new Guardiola.
I had him as the first manager to be sacked on the prediction thread and I don’t think he’ll be far off.
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The thing that annoys me about Arteta is the easy ride he gets from the media/pundits despite two 8th place finishes. I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve heard pundits come out with things like “you can see what they’re trying to do though”.
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Ed @ 9:14,
first paragraph spot on Ed. No previous Managerial experience too. Arsenal deserve better. They have tough fixtures and if they don’t get the results on the board, I can only see one thing happening.
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Wow, what a night! Can’t believe football is back in the way we’ve been used to it.
The last year has been a Warp. Freakish how there were lots of away wins. Having the supporters back…..Well….speaks for itself.
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Shouldn’t the side that had the better stats in every field be more deserving than the other side that won?
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I said it too at the time. I think it was exactly the same day that Arteta was announced as Arsenal manager, Everton announced Ancelotti. I thought the announcements had been accidentally been misreported and swapped. I couldn’t believe it. One club was showing the extent of their ambitions and the other was showing they were happy to continue on their slide towards mediocrity.
Arsenal as a club are now in a very dangerous position. I can’t imagine ANY established player worth their salt would move to Arsenal from now on. They will have to rely on unearthing hidden gems either from lower leagues or lesser European leagues. As soon as a good player is in demand from a top 6 club in either Italy, England, France, Spain or Germany then Arsenal will have no chance of signing said player.
Imagine if Auba was still in Germany, he was one of the hottest properties in European football at the time, if he was on the market now, no way in hell would he choose Arsenal.
They are in serious trouble IMO, I really can’t see them making the top 10. Arteta may well prove to become a good manager in the future but I’ve seen it time and time again, assistant managers failing to make the step up to take on the top job, it’s a completely different task! He is well out of his depth and it doesn’t sound like the players are bought into him._____________________________
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MM if a clear underdog defeats a top club it’s always seen as deserving despite the stats, besides from what I saw I can’t understand how they got those stats which I just checked now. Brentford were far better than those stats.
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When Liverpool went through a lean spell, they always still managed to have a few big personalities in the dressing room, be it Suarez or Gerrard. Someone who could at least excite the fans during those difficult times. And then they obviously brought in a big personality to actually manage the club in Klopp. Problem for Arsenal, Arteta aside, is I just don’t really see any personalities in that side with regards to the players. Yes they have a few bright players, but that’s not enough. And now they’re playing extra safe in the transfer market by bringing in younger players with potential for the long term. I think when the owners had Wenger in charge they could almost sit back and let him run things on a budget by constantly getting top 4. But now he’s gone, they can’t find a replacement who will deliver the same things under the same conditions. So they keep playing safe and are getting nowhere fast.
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Theyβd it Ed. What is he doing do? They have no style etc? Itβs just a mess
Always knew arsenal be screwed after they hounded wenger out
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You have to be surrounded by good backroom staff and individuals who have lived and gained experience and carry knowledge, plus knowing how to get the best out of their players. Brian Kidd one example who left Man City last month, but I’m sure was an asset to Pep.
Arteta was part of that, but when you leave to start out elsewhere, you need the experience and the support, i.e. a solid Number 2.
It was the same with Frank Lampard last year.
Pep Lijnders is a big part of Jurgen Klopp’s progression. Cannot be underestimated.
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Good to see Pogba’s ego didn’t take a hit over the summer
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Arsenal took a chance on Arteta as an ex Arsenal player just as Barca did with Pep.
All Managers are ultimately judged by their results no matter who they are if the results don’t turn around for Arteta the inevitable will happen but I don’t think there will be any knee jerk reactions just yet though.
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Pep was less of a gamble in what was a 2 horse race league and an open cheque book club though. Arsenal were coming off the back of being a team sliding down the league and becoming more and more irrelevant and then announced a completely unproven manager. That’s madness imo
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Nine, people need to stop comparing it to the Pep situation. Pep was very much the exception rather than the rule. Also everyone seems to forget Pep did a great job with the Barca B side. He knew the young players, the club, the coaching staff. He’d proven he could be the number 1 and lead a team to success. Arsenal gave Arteta his first job as a manager.
So many managers before and after Pep have failed when given a big job straight away. Henry, Neville, Seedorf, Pirlo Shearer. The list is endless. Pointing to Pep as though his situation is a tried and tested one is just not accurate as he’s very much the exception.
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Foxy, I don’t think anyone could have predicted what Pep would go on to achieve after being promoted from Barca B.
Appointing any new Manager is a risk but I think Arsenal’s problems go deeper than just Arteta and it starts at the top with Kroenke who the Arsenal fans don’t want as an owner.
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