Week 26 footy (Including Predictions)

[Anonymous]

Is this a repeat of not playing for a manager they aren’t keen on ,it worked with Jose .If I were Conte I fine everyone apart from Hazard for taking the piss.

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[nine nine nine]

Sean, all of the current problems stem from the disagreements over transfer policy which is surprising given that both parties at the beginning of this relationship went into it with their eyes wide open with Conte knowing he wouldn’t have full control over transfer policy before he joined and Chelsea knowing about the reasons for his fall out with Juventus when Conte resigned as manager of Juve in 2015 after a clash with the Juventus hierarchy over transfer policy, a feud Italian Federation President Carlo Tavecchio confirmed in an interview.
“Juve and Conte didn’t have a good relationship. He has a very strong personality, and things were complicated by an economic dispute between him and the club.”

Conte accepted the role at Chelsea knowing that he wouldn’t have a full say on transfers but I don’t think that ever sat happily with him then in winning the title last season he felt empowered to push for much greater control on transfers with Chelsea offering him a new and much more lucrative extended contract this ended in Conte accepting the more lucrative contract but refusing the extension because he couldn’t get his way on transfers.

Since then as you point out “he hasn’t stopped moaning” about the situation in almost every broadcast press conference criticising the Owner/Board and just like in any other business if you criticise your employer’s constantly in public it’s not going to end well.

On the one hand I’m sympathetic to Conte’s point of view but on the other hand the club didn’t want him signing a number of Italian older player like Bonucci for lots of money and then moving on plus there have been previous concerns at Board level as to how the likes of Salah and De Bruyne were allowed to leave the club based on the Mangers decision.

For me the best solution would be to give Conte greater control on transfers and appoint a replacement for Emenalo as Technical Director with gravitas asap capable of working in tandem with Conte but I think it’s probably gone too far now and it’s not fixable, the loss of key players to injury hasn’t helped Conte or the the sale of Costa and Matic alongside all of this and the team looked a shambles last night and for £40m Bakayoko has been less than poor.

Personally given Chelsea’s forthcoming tough run of fixtures I think things may get worse now before they get better albeit when everyone is fit one to eleven in calmer waters than Chelsea are sailing in currently they are a match for almost anyone in the PL.

I don’t think Chelsea will make a CL place this season now which will have a negative impact on who the club can sign in the Summer no matter who the Manager is and what say he has on transfers.

Worrying times ahead if you’re a Chelsea fan.

Thankfully I’ve still got the World tiddlywinks Championships to look forward to!?

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[Anonymous]

a lot of talk on the radio about how conte hasnt been backed this year and that he should’ve been given he won the league last season. i’d love for spurs to be in a position where spending well over £200m in a season and bringing in 9 new players to the first team squad is considered not being backed! everyone talks about the money united and city have spent but chelsea have also spent an obscene amount of money. granted it might not have been the players he wanted but they aren’t bad players.

first and foremost conte is to blame. it is him that has lost the dressing room. however for the players to go out on that pitch and not even try is a disgrace. my comments last night about hazard were tongue in cheek and he is the only that looks like he cares and behaves like a professional. how gary cahill is getting game time is beyond me.

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[paul powers tash]

Thanks for sharing your wisdom (above) Nine. A couple of questions if I may?

Conte accepted the role at Chelsea knowing that he wouldn’t have a full say on transfers
Is this known to be a fact ? Or heresay?

To an outsider looking in.There’s obviously more to this than meets the eye.
I would question if your owner is as commited now.As say he has
been ?

From what I’ve read RA hardly goes to any Chelsea games anymore ?

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[nine nine nine]

ppt, It was pretty well known prior to Conte’s appointment how the club operated on transfers had Conte been offered control of transfers and then not been given it he would have caused for complaint and given how he’s so vociferously complained recently I think it’s unlikely that he would have been backwards and coming forwards in saying what he was promised is not what he’s getting but of course none of us really know what was and wasn’t discussed/ agreed so it’s just an educated guess based on everything known about Chelsea’s policy on transfers previously and how Conte reacted previously.

Has Abramovich lost interest because he doesn’t go to games anymore? Who knows mate his Box is there and sadly I don’t get there every week so I don’t know when he’s there and when he isn’t he did pen a full page communique to Chelsea fans just last week and he is committed to building a new 60,000 Stadium which his just getting underway. But even if Abramovich had lost interest in Chelsea his impact on the club is very limited now financially. As far as I know Abramovich watches every Chelsea game from wherever he is in the world. Cheers 999

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[nine nine nine]

I agree Paxton £200m is a significant spend but how many of those players were Conte’s choice and whose buying them?

Also it’s worth remembering that the actual spend was £40m net and that £100m of that £200m came from the sale of Costa and Matic both of whom were integral to last season’s title win.

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[Pagan]

9, no one on this forum knows what was discussed during Conte’s appointment, were just having an educated guess, however I would suggest the club need to back him to the hilt when it comes to his position as coach, the vast majority of managers we have had since Roman took over have suffered from the players “downing tools” to one extent or another, this has always ended up with the manager going. Player power at Chelsea is crippling the club, players coming in know they are bought by committee and as such don’t think they have to respect the manager, they need to know that’s not the case.
Whilst I partly agree with players being bought by committee, that committee has to include the coach and they make a list of players for each position or type of player they want, and then someone else goes out and tries to get them in an order of preference.
For me Roman and the board need to sit by Conte with the players and 100% back him, let them know player power is a thing of the past….Pagan

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[maverick1973]

Pax-Go on mate say it-Cahill is proper shite,lol.

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[maverick1973]

I agree with Kylie Minogue here,to me it seems the players have downed their tools,just like they did when Jose got sacked-the 2nd time around!

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[Anonymous]

999 – i agree with the fact that its not of use if they aren’t his signings but he is supposed to be one of the top managers in the world and the players brought in, aren’t bad players. he should be able to make it work. its all good saying chelsea only spent 40m net, but they still spent 240m on nine new players.

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[Anonymous]

gary cahill is…………………(oh the suspense)……………………….proper shit!

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[nine nine nine]

Paxton, you can’t add the gross spend to the net spend and come up with £240m mate.? Take away Spurs net spend from Chelsea’s net spend and the difference is £27m.

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[Chucky McChuckface]

Do we really have to have the net spend argument again? It’s about as relevant as what I had for breakfast (pancakes btw!).

Team A spends 500m on players, but sold 480 million, net = 20

Team B spends 100, on players, but sold 50 million, net = 50

Team A should still be fooking streets ahead of TEAM B as they BOUGHT 500 million worth of players!! 🙂

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[nine nine nine]

Chucky, you’re right it really all comes down to the fact that Chelsea have bought badly and seemingly the majority of the buys weren’t Conte’s.

In summary from a position of strength and being PL Champions we’ve messed up big time but that’s Chelsea for you! ?

ps take away the pancakes from the porridge and all you’re left with net is a little bit of maple syrup.?

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[Pagan]

Chuckles, that only works if they bought £500m worth of the right players. A team should always be greater than the sum of its parts, getting that blend right is the trick, it’s not only about on the pitch it’s in the dressing room and on the training pitches. Building a team is about getting it right on both ability and personality, cultivating a team spirit where the team comes first where players get pulled up to to greater things rather than dragged down….Pagan

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[Chucky McChuckface]

Goldie… firstly, porridge is the devil’s spawn, secondly, try as you might, you’ve got more chance dating Marilyn Manson than you have in getting sympathy for Chelski’s plight! 🙂

Peggy… sorry chumster, are yuou trying to say us paupers should feel sorry for teams who’ve spent 500million on rubbish and forgot where they put the receipts? Good one.. The fact they bought rubbish doesn’t distract from the fact they still went out and bought a coach load of players and by hook or by crook should be streets ahead of teams that didn’t…

And as much as it comes to blowing my own trumpet, dare I suggest you all look no further than the mighty Spuds for an indication on how to put the “team” in “team”, won sod all mind you (thought I’d say it first! 🙂 )

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[Pagan]

Chuckles, you know perfectly well I’m not asking for sympathy, it’s an art getting a team together, getting the personality and ability balance correct, Spurs are really getting there, unfortunately Leicester and then Chelsea had outstanding seasons and now it looks like Man City are having one.
The problem with big players is they come with big egos (in general) and when big egos clash it can be somewhat harmful to team spirit. Ideally you need your big egos to be glass half full personalities, to me Chelsea have only looked at ability and as such not got the balance right, that’s something they need to learn from….Pagan

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[Pagan]

Oh I don’t know Chucles, I don’t think Marilyn Manson is too picky, 9 may be in with a chance there…. Pagan

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[Chucky McChuckface]

Peggy.. in my defense it was kinda coming across like net spend doesn’t count if you buy rubbish… 🙂

And yes, paying players over the odds to make your club possibly look more attractive than it is, is going to attract a few players with one eye on their bank account. At least at my Spuds you kinda know the players want to be there, it isn’t about the cash as such. I mean, Sanchez is a prime example, everybody and his dog thought he was going to your mob but 600k a week later, he’s suddenly a YooUtd fan! 🙂

Reminds of that Mrs. Merton/Debbie MacGhee interview… “So, tell me Ms. Macghee, what first attracted you to multi-millionaire Paul Daniels?

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[Pagan]

Chuckles, you said last night about jumpers for goal posts, and the emotions or scoring, and that got me thinking, you I presume played football for fun, whereas players today don’t, they’ve been put on the treadmill from a very young age, in a hope they can make a lot of money, to them it’s just a job, there’s no fun…. Pagan

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