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That’s the thing Nine. It isn’t about Utd playing poorly. It’s the culmination of many years of mis-managament and neglect of the club covered over by the genius of Sir Alex towards the end of his reign. Utd’s value soared again recently so why would the owners care really? They’ll only care when the sponsors start asking questions, hence the fans voicing their opinion with their feet, and rightly so.
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Ye I totally agree Ed
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Seconded Sean.?
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Think it’ll be Poch in the summer Ed. I know we both have our reservations but he’ll get them more organised, give them an identity, develop the youngsters, he knows the league and with better quality they’ll probably do quite well. Allegri more charismatic perhaps, but not sure his type of football is the answer. You’ve sort of been there with José. Can’t think of anyone else with the experience.
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Think you’re right Mikus. Despite my reservations about Poch, he’s a he’ll of a lot more qualified to take the job than Ole ever was. Nagelsmann is probably too much of a gamble at this stage.
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Think it’s clear Ole won’t be at Utd next season. I think Utd need a whole new identity to be honest, and that can start by the removal of certain members of the board.
Poch will likely be the favorite and I could see him doing a much better job than Ole can. Will he take Utd back to the very top?
Nagelsmann would be a risk I guess as he has never obviously managed anywhere other than Germany, doesn’t have experience of dealing with big egos at RB Leipzig and is actually younger than a few Utd players (32). But he would offer his own modern style. He is doing very well indeed at Leipzig as they sit top of the Bundersliga, 4 points clear of Bayern. He is a risk defiantly, but maybe one that is worth taking after going the safe route of tried and trusted managers before and failing with them.
Marco Rose from BMG is another one. A bit older at 43, he is credited with a lot of the good work at RB Salzburg before taking charge at BMG who are currently a point behind Munich in 3rd. Like Nagelsmann he likes to press high and playing quick attacking football, a bit like Klopp, and we’ve all seen how well that sort of style can work in the Premier League.
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Just a small question about Pochettinp. Is he a serial winner or just a decent manager?
What I saw of Utd last night wasnt great but not quite as bad as the result suggests.
Funnily enough, the recent signings dont seem to be doing it. Thats bad judgdment. Ole will go, sadly, at the end of the season once a Europa Cup place is there.
I didnt think much of the chanting frankly, it is a game. You dont wish people to die. Poor.
Much of this stems from the poor squad left by SAF plus the transfer approach of signing players ad hoc just because City expressed an interest.Did you see Pogba’s agent’s comments that Utd were not living up to Pogbas expectations! Says he who cost £90m and very rarely does it.
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Ed, I think the fans staying away is about the owners but some of them have to be not going because of what’s going on the pitch aswell
I’m sorry for sounding so harsh but in general utd are dreadful. They are a poor team to watch
Woodward is clueless I understand that. Money has been spent though. Big money spent on players who have not performed
James started well but is still so raw and is playing to many games. Maguire has been very average and getting worse as the season goes on
Awb has looked awful recently. Good players who are playing poorly. Very similar to Liverpool years ago. Good players come to the club but then never performed
Utd are in a real mess. Ole really talks some amount of rubbish Nd I don’t think Poch is the answer
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Just some clarification:
Video assistant referees in the Premier League this season will not rule on a goalkeeper’s position on penalties.
VAR will be used in the league for the first time from August, but referees chiefs have made the call that the technology will be not be used in decisions on a goalkeeper’s position for penalties, and will instead be left to the on-field officials to decide.
The clarification comes following the controversial decision made by the video assistant referee during Scotland’s game against Argentina in the Women’s World Cup on Wednesday night.
Shelley Kerr’s side were ultimately knocked out of the competition as a result of the call, with their keeper, Lee Alexander, originally saving an Argentine spot kick only for VAR to order the kick to be retaken on the basis that she did not have one foot on the line.
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Nothing harsh about it Sean. We’re a shambles at the moment. I don’t think Poch is the answer but he or any one of the other favourites to succeed Ole is an answer and, considering how clueless we look at the moment, another roll of the dice can’t be any worse than where we’re at now.
Money has been spent, without doubt, but without any clear strategy or without any thought process.
Adlab, absolute rubbish that Utd signed players just because City expressed an interest. If you think Utd would employ scouts all over the world and then resort to reading the gossip pages and just go for players because City were linked with them, then I’m astonished.
Also, if you have to ask if Poch is a serial winner, I honestly wonder how much football you watch. He’s not won a trophy ever, hence the many many discussions on this forum and elsewhere around how good he actually is.
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The only thing keeping me positive is the fact that our best players this season have been McTominay, Williams, Rashford, Greenwood and Dean Henderson (at Sheff Utd). All academy players with bright futures. Something money can’t buy. It does say everything you need to know though about our transfer record over recent years. Utd will always have talented young players coming through so it’s great to see that, despite the mess we’re in, that tradition/culture is intact.
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Still think you guys are being a bit harsh on Poncho. Considering where Spuds were when he took over mixed in with the resources he had to get them where they were about 18 months ago, with a dose of players just being tarts in the last 18 months or so, I don’t think he did a bad job at all. Would Kloop or Pepe done what he did in that same scenario? Maybe, maybe not, we’ll never know for sure.
We’ll certainly find out when he gets the YooUtd job and that bottomless check book.
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Sean I said at the beginning of the season that AWB and Maguire whilst good players were not suited to a top level team, more for a low block team. AWB in particular as he is dreadful going forward so it negates the option to use the fullbacks as an attacking option. So how do they break down stubborn defensive teams? Through the middle? They haven’t got the players for that either.
Utd have players that would suit a low block direct counter attacking team. Sadly for them that only works if the other teams takes the game to them, and being Utd only a handful will. This what I mean about needing an identity, a style of play, then get the right manager, the right coaches and of course the right players.
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I tvibk Poch is good but not great.
He reminds me a bit of Rodgers. So nearvyet so far
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AWB was our biggest attacking threat yesterday Threeps. Not sure if you saw the game. He had a good game going forward. He’s stronger defensively, sure, but he’s improving going forward. He was easily Utd’s best player yesterday.
I’ve said all I’ll say on Maguire. Badly out of form and confidence at the minute but there are so many bigger problems than him at the moment. He’ll be fine with some confidence and a coach who knows what he’s doing defensively.
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Yep agree with that Sean. But I’d gladly settle for “good” right now. Good is not going to take us to world domination but it’ll stop the rot that we’re currently seeing.
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Didn’t see the game Ed but also heard he was your biggest threat, but also heard that was more a thing against the rest of the team than a positive for him. I’ve seen many times this season and he’s been dreadful going forward so one reasonable game (should of had an assist apparently?) does not make a good fullback.
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You “tvibk”, do you? Is that related to twerking?? Goosey will want a vid for sure… 🙂
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few things on the united game…first i watched the end of a documentary about when they were relegated and came back up, how it was a reset etc but when they came up were unfancied and teaqms were not scared of them, the Docherty team soon changed minds, it seems a bit that way now, a little lost and its going to take the right manger to sort the mess, but you just dont see that happening at united, they seem to refuse a DoF, it was mooted for a year or two then all quiet, the transfers have been largely shcoking, last decent one was van persie and should never have been allowed to come to you! Also it still seems that most of the ex united players, the G Nevs and Keneos still want Ole to be given time and windows, and seems totally at odds with the fan base, nepotism once again
and again much like pool form yesteryear when all those winning players became pundits and constantly talked of whats wronf and how it used to be better
teams need to stop living in the past on past glory, as we have seen comparing great teams evenn over just 10 years, the game changes so much, all teams need a forward vision and stop living on the past glories of yesteryear!
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Of course it doesn’t but it’s far from his only good game. He’s been massively improving going forward. He also had Sterling in his back pocket at the Etihad for 90mins. If you’ve been watching the games I’ve been watching, I’m surprised you’ve picked him out tbh, but just shows how differently we all see the game. Highlighted of course by the many disagreements Liverpool fans over Henderson for example! But I respect your opinion, of course.
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