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Paxton your always the first on here giving out about diving yet when a spurs player did it a few weeks ago you applauded it?
Minimal contact. No way enough to go down but ridiculous defender put his hand on him
Very very soft pen
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Did I mention I reckon Son is out best diver… that man can do it all!!
Joking aside, it’s obvious it’s here to stay now, players of ALL CLUBS have no problem with it now, even the pundits have no problem with it. If there’s contact it’s now going to be given, even if the player is suffering some weird nervous disease whereby a tug on the shirt causes his knees to collapse. The only time we can all hope punishment is dished out is when there is absolutely no contact…
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“I expect both Liverpool and City to win their respective games over the weekend”
I’m definitely not over-confident. I mean, I think we’ve more chance of winning than Arsenal but only 60-40. If we play our best, they are in trouble but if it’s the other way around, then our undefeated run comes to an end. This and the City game are going to be the hardest challenge for us so far (just about). I think it’ll be tough to get through them both without a loss.
I don’t want to say that I think our first loss of the season lies ahead , in these 2 games but the thought has crossed my mind quite a bit.
I can’t wait for this first match. For my worries, we already know that we’ve got ourselves an extremely hungry and focused squad.
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i fully condone diving but if you are caught at the time then you deserve to be booked. if you con the ref then well done. however, if the FA look at it and its clear as day (as in the salah case) then you deserve to be banned. son should’ve been banned following his dive against arsenal but the FA didn’t deem it worthy of being looked at due to the challenge that came in on him. i congratulate salah on the dive and winning of the penalty, its a skill that he executed well but should’ve been banned when the fa reviewed it.
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“it may have affected the next two games had salah been rightly banned for both of them.”
Since when are players banned retrospectively for diving? The S*n have ignited this but unless I’m mistaken (I could well be), this isn’t a done thing in football. So, if I’m right, why are we talking about this “2 game ban”?
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BTW, I don’t like diving, unless it’s to force the ref into making a decision on an actual foul. For me, this is not a foul at all and Salah has just dived. Yes, I see that he’s very lightly pulled him back but it’s nothing. Now, if he pulled harder and Salah tried to play on. Let’s say he’s pulled off balance. Ya, the pull might not make him fall but it’s ruined his chances of playing on in an effective way then yes, drop tot he ground and force the ref into making the correct call. Sometimes refs can’t see the true impact that a foul has on a player. If someone plays to the whistle in all situations, the ref will assume you’re ok and don’t consider yourself to have been fouled, if you stay on your feet.
This shit that Salah did though, honestly I am a little ashamed of it. Not too much but that’s only because this is rife within the sport. I may grow desensitized to it but that doesn’t mean I like it either.
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The problem I have Mak is the very first sentence of your above post… didn’t read the rest. Since when did the players decide what was a foul or not? Should we just give them their own whistles or what?
Cyber chum, your argument is about as weak as the tug on that shirt…
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Mak – last year the FA brought in a rule where If a player dives in the area and convinces the ref to give a penalty, they can be subject to a retrospective 2 game ban. The FA looked at it and didn’t deem it a dive which is ridiculous but whatever. Several players have already been banned under this rule.
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Chucky, in all honesty, if you’ve read only the first sentence and decided that my argument is weak, then what do you expect me to do here? Explain my position further? That’d be a waste of my own time. In future it might serve you better to read before writing off, especially if you’re gonna be focal about it.
Paxton, fair enough if this is actually a thing. In that case, I cant see why Salah got away with this. I’m all for banning divers, especially ones looking to either get players sent off, or penalties. Obviously, as a Liverpool fan, I don’t want to lose Salah but I was unhappy to see how we got that penalty. It was cheating.
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Okay, Mak, fair point so I read it. Guess what? I stand by my statement asking since when were the players allowed to decide what was a foul or not… all that rubbish about “what if his shirt was pulled a little harder…” sorry cyber chum but what a load of bullocks. The “contact” was absolutely nothing like the reaction Salah gave… the rest of your excuse is exactly why we have the problem in the game in the first place. You’ve watered it down and turned it into a complete grey area with all that rubbish about he might do this, he might do that etc…
I think you have a genuine problem if you think players are allowed to do the ref’s job for them!
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i fully condone diving but if you are caught at the time then you deserve to be booked You mean condemn it m8,surely?
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Nope. Completely condone it. It’s part of the game now, it’s not going anywhere. Needs to be seen as a skill.
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I don’t give a s*** who does it IMO if you dive you automatically get a ban. I absolutely detest it. I’ve tried getting some of my Rugby League mates into football & was having a bit of success when they were watching us bang in goals last season but as soon as the diving starts they just shake their heads & say how do you watch this s**+. It isn’t rocket science to see when a diver goes down unnaturally throwing their head back with all the theatrics & all these BS excuses like “oh the defender tugged his shirt” doesn’t wash with me. I’d hate to see some of these pussies in the mosh pit at a rock concert or any crowded place. You see participants in contact sports trying to hide injuries so their opponent doesn’t think they’re hurting yet football players try to convince refs etc they’re hurt. It’s bloody embarrassing.
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That’s it Aussie. Sturridge is the worst for me these days. I think reason salah didn’t get ban is because there was minimal contact. I also see Dermot Gallagher has said it’s a ban but I totally disagree.
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The game was in trouble the minute somebody uttered the fateful words “well, if they’re going to do it then so shall we…”
No idea who it was mind you!
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I don’t like diving at all but I don’t get all the hate directed at the players or the comments about them being soft etc. They’re simply playing the game. While ever the potential rewards (ie a pen) outweigh the potential risks (a yellow at worst) diving will continue to be part of the game. I can’t think of any other sport where feigning pain/injury carries the rewards it does in football. Every single player in the game claims throwins/corners when they know it hit them last. Why is that dishonesty any different?
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It isn’t Eddy, that’s just as embarrassing (when my boys do it) and annoying cheating bastards when everybody else does it…
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Ed I don’t condone that crap either but a throw in rarely costs as much a a dive in the box for a penalty & frankly those who make excuses are a big part of why it continually happens. Start banning players that obviously dive & increase the ban for repeat offenders & you watch it reduce. I love the game but cannot stand what I see as the biggest blight on the game. As I said I’d hate to see some footballers in a crowd, slightest touch & down they’d go.
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As somebody who has played a fair bit of rugby and ice-hockey over the years, as well as an often frequenter of mosh-pits, Ozzy’s post at 9:40 pretty much sums it up perfectly for me… players go down so easy these days it’s not even funny anymore.
Don’t even know why I’m typing this…
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