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At the end of the day, we’re never going to really know, and having spent 400m on players in the last couple of years, I would think every YooUtd fan should be expecting more, considering Maureen’s CV…
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Chucky in terms of return on investment, absolutely! In terms of squad strength, not so much.
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Which brings us back to the argument on what Poncho may have achived with 400m instead of the 4.50p and a bag of monster munch… π
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? I think I’m done for tonight. In all seriousness, I’d like to see what he could do with more money. He’s done a decent job at Spurs. I don’t think it’s as clear cut as you seem to think though. It’s an entirely different job when you’re managing multiple very expensive players, keeping them all happy, managing the press, managing expectations. If it was as simple as overachieving being a simple linear equation, Real Madrid would have already snapped up Sean Dyche.
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Without wanting to discredit Poch’s achievements, it’s quite a stress-free job he has. He doesn’t have to care about the cups. He doesn’t have to win anything. He’s got the best striker in the world, the best defence in the league, a world Cup winning keeper. Over achieving isn’t always difficult. Moyes did it for years. People were constantly saying Moyes would be very good with more money as he hardly spent anything and was always around top 4. We all know how that went.
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I don’t think for one nano-second a single Spud-lover would agree with the “Best Defense in the League” comment… maybe 3 years ago with Walker and Rose (when Rose remembered how to play football)… I’ll go along with best CB pairing in Toby & Jan, but chuck in our fool-backs (see what I did there?) and then your argument is about as strong as school custard.
And yes, I’d like to see what Poncho could do with some dosh… we’re so close, 2 proper full-backs and a top draw CM added to the squad, winner, winner, chicken dinner…
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I think if any team finishes within ten points if city they are doing well
Just look how easily they are coasting through games. They scored early and itβs game over. Best team in Europe at min for me and I expect them to win the cl aswell
By Sunday they will have played Liverpool , aresnal, spurs and Chelsea away. Who exactly is going to beat these? Difficult fixtures out of the way
It says it all when I think an excellent Chelsea team will lose on sat againeat them. City dropped 14 points last year.thats unreal. I think they will drop less this season and smash 100 points easily
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A point for Chelsea on Saturday would be like a victory. Can’t see it though.
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I donβt think City have actually been tested this season. They beat an unsettled new Arsenal team on the opening day, drew against what was an average Liverpool performance, albeit beat a Man Utd side partly in disarray, but have lost 4/6 points to Lyon, probably the only side to give them a real game this season. I think a lot of the teams in the premier league have lost their games vs Man City before a ball has even been kicked such is the psychological effect that City now have. If Chelsea perform like theyβve shown this season and really take the game to City, theyβve got half a chance.
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I agree with chucky, the amount moanino has spent yours want to be challenging for titles. He has built the squad he has & has spent more than enough to be up around the top.
As many have said he usually goes good 1st season, cracks appear in season 2 & he capitulates in season 3. Heβs sticking true to form._____________________________
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you just cant compare mourinho and poch. one has a CV full of trophies, the other with none. but at the same time, one has been regularly been backed in the transfer market with the big teams given hundreds of millions to spend and the other gets the bare minimum in comparison. one is under huge pressure to win trophies whilst the other is under no pressure whatsoever. one is currently underachieving based on resources whilst the other is massively overachieving yet still not winning anything. one only likes to deal with finished product players whilst the other prefers to develop young talent.
they are completely different in every aspect. personally i think if mourinho had the current spurs squad, with the minimal pressure of achieving anything we would be better off.
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Come on Paxo, are you having a larff or what? I can just see Maureen’s line up at the Spuds…
GK – Hugo
A back Five of Aurier (cause he’s bigger that Trippeir), Toby, Jan, Sanchez, and Disco at LB (cause he’s bigger than Rose).
Mdifield 4 of Dier, Dier’s Brother, Dier’s other Brother, and Ali (cause he’s bigger than Erikson)
Up top Harry (with instructions not to leave the center circle).TO DARE IS TO
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Chucky – if you think that then you clearly haven’t been watching Utd play. The lineup and tactics are fine. The players are failing the club.
I doubt anyone plays more attacking fullbacks than Young and Shaw, we usually play 4 at the back with one ball playing CB, two in midfield and three behind the striker.
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You’re right Alfie, I don’t watch YooUtd play that often, normally twice a year if you know what I mean… π
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Alfie Iβve seen a good bit of utd. They clearly can play but only seem to get going when they fall behind. I havenβt seen any so called bus parking this year
They just donβt create enough but the main issue is the defence. It used to be Rick solid last season. Matic has made more mistakes this season then his whole career
It reminds me of under rafa. Players not being able to pick a ten yard pass. Basic simple mistakes. Pogba losing the balk 25 times on sat. Fred not getting games
I agree with Mikus. Jose should have been backed in the summer. Good played have come but just arenβt performing.
Utds problems are much bigger then Jose. He does pick some strange teams like last sat.
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Ok Ed I get you. To me “over-achieving” has always meant to be doing better than someone should rightfully do. With Rafa there was always this nonsense from opposition fans after we won the CL in 2005, that we fluked it. Of course that talk ended when we reached the final again in 2007 π Anyway, I see how you meant it (maybe a more correct definition of the word than me) and that’s kinda good to hear TBH. Rafa got such an incredibly hard deal from all English fans (in my opinion).
Before he was eventually sacked, more than half our fans DESPISED him. week in and out, Liverpool fans mocking the man who won us number 5. Then there’s Chelsea. He won them the UEFA Cup while filling in and they all hate him for it. Utd fans have never respected him either. I kinda get that a bit more because we’re each-others fiercest rivals (historically). I didn’t like red nose at all either, although now that he’s no longer clocking up titles, I feel I can respect him a lot easier π
Anyway, grand
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Pax, you can’t compare their trophy haul but you would need to only give me 5 seconds to pick who I’d want to manage Liverpool, if Klopp walked out tomorrow and they wre both (magically) without a club… In Jose’s case, it won’t be magic at all , in fact, we’ll call that it “tomorrow”.
He must be VERY close to getting the sack now surely.
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Sean, Utd will raise their game for us. They’ll forget that there is a manager that they don’t want to play for and the occasion will motivate them plenty. I don’t take that fixture for granted one bit.
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Kylie-You must be on the sauce or your fb must be really,really shite to want Shaw? And,if you have the vee Viking man flanking Keane,alongside Alli,the you dont want Martial either.Our midfield is worse,Fellaini is pure shite,Matic is way,way past his best and dead,Pogba couldnt care less[ and according to Jose-a virus] @ the club,Fred still too early to judge.The doughnout thief is the only player from our team you would want-right now anyway!
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LOL, who’s the doughnut thief?
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