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[Adlab]

Gary Lineker slams VAR after Raheem Sterling’s disallowed goal for Man City against Chelsea

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/news/gary-lineker-var-chelsea-sterling-17308240

Have a look …I know its old ground and it didnt affect the result. How is Sterling offside?
Thats what happens when you complain about Oliver. At least level

We dont seem to get one decision. I wonder why that is?

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[nine nine nine]

Adlab, you’ve got to drop this poor us nonsense it was clearly a silly decision but according to the rules Sterling was offside what needs to happen is for the rules to be amended.

Something like a whole foot/ head must be in an offside position until that happens we will continue to get these decisions. Chelsea had a goal ruled out because a few minutes earlier to the goal being scored part of Mounts heel was ruled to be offside so it’s not just City!

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[Pagan]

Adlab, simple answer, the pictures showed he was offside, and as has happened consistently this season the goal was disallowed.

For me you have to question the accuracy of the system to be able to determine to that degree whether he was or not as the frame rate is not fast enough and it’s only a best guess when the ball is actually played forward.

For me we need to get rid of lmicro analysis” and “clear and obvious”, and use “would you reasonably expect the officials to get that decision right with one look at normal speed”

Let’s just get rid of the howlers….Pagan

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[nine nine nine]

It doesn’t make up for losing the game but it was a better performance than Chelsea’s last visit to the Etihad.? And a small crumb of comfort that no team has ever been able to do the below to a Pep team previously.

“However, although City ultimately emerged victorious against their big-six rivals, they were out-passed by Frank Lampard’s men.

The home team registered only 46.74% possession, the lowest figure ever recorded by a side coached by Guardiola in any of his 381 top-flight games as a manager.

That includes his 127 Premier League matches in charge of City, as well as 152 La Liga outings as Barcelona boss and 102 Bundesliga contests while at the helm of Bayern Munich.

And Guardiola was quick to hail Chelsea and Lampard for their approach to the game, even though they left the Etihad empty-handed.

“There is always one thing in your lifetime that has not happened – it happened,” he told reporters when the statistic was put to him after the match.

“So, OK, I have another record, I won one game without possession. They are an incredible team with Kante, [Mateo] Kovacic, Jorginho, so it can happen.

“They are so good, they are an incredible team. It’s Chelsea. Football is becoming like this. Most teams and young managers have spirit and nothing to lose. That’s why the football is nice. Chelsea are playing incredibly well.”

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[Mikus LFC]

Regarding Silva at Everton, don’t forget that to bring him in to Everton, they first had to pay off Allardyce £6 million. They then had to compensate Watford £4 million. If they sack Silva who is contracted to 2021, they’ll have to pay him off about another £6 million. If you include Silva’s current salary for the last year, that’s another £3 million spent. So £20 million potentially thrown around over the last year. For what exactly?

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[Pagan]

9, not a big believer of stats, “lies, damn lies and statistics” and all that, but I had no sporting commitments yesterday evening I got to watch the game on the box. The big positive is we were never out of the game, and there was nothing really between the sides…..Pagan

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[nine nine nine]

That’s all true Mikus but it happens and if Everton decide he’s no longer right for them and they must be getting close to that if they’re not already there then they will pull the trigger.

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[Mikus LFC]

And that’s the interesting thing isn’t it Nine? When bankers reward themselves for failure, there’s outrage. But in football, fans just shrug their shoulders and say these things happen. Strange.

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[Adlab]

Pagan. You hit it on the head. Perfect point. We have to get rid of tbe micro-analysis. Itz spoiling the game. To everybody that is level….not as you rightly say a “clear and obvious error”. Enough, I’m fed up of it. More lies than in the pre-election nonsense.

Todays games. A Utd win 2-0. ManU that is! Will Poch be there?

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[Adlab]

Again a great point Mikus. Football doesnt follow the normal rules. It relies on tribalism.
If in doubt read here!!

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[nine nine nine]

Mikus, if a Manager is not successful they get the sack that’s par for the course and that’s got nothing to do with the fans that’s down to the owners of the Club. That’s what happened when Liverpool sacked Brendan Rodgers who nearly won Liverpool the PL title and appointed Jürgen Klopp.

The fans don’t get a say in these decisions and Managers are very well rewarded and paid enormous compensation when it goes wrong.

What happens to Marco Silva has nothing to do with me but I think I’m smart enough to realise he’s in trouble and faces a very tough run of fixtures and that he’s going to do very well to hang in there at Everton if he doesn’t go on a winning run.

I certainly wouldn’t put any money on him still being there post Christmas but if results begin to fall his way he’s got a chance if not …..!

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[nine nine nine]

Offside is not judged on whether it’s a clear and obvious error it’s judged on whether a part f the body is over the lines that VAR use to decide whether a player is offside or not.

The decision on the Sterling goal last night was harsh just as previous decisions in similar circumstances were harsh but that won’t change until greater tolerances are written in to the current offside rules that VAR is operating too.

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[nine nine nine]

“Football doesnt follow the normal rules. It relies on tribalism.
If in doubt read here!!”

Kind of ironic that statement coming from you of all people Adlab.?

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[Pagan]

9, just out of interest do you believe that the current system is accurate enough to rule that you are sure that the decision for offside is right…..Pagan

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[Mikus LFC]

Yes but the fans of the club are still very much connected to everything and ultimately are the ones pressuring the board to make changes and decisions. As Adlab said it’s ultimately tribalism, which in turn causes irrational behaviour in the constant pursuit of success. And if big bucks gets blown, so be it.

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[Brian blue]

A great game of football , congrats to players and managers of both teams….this is the type of game we want to watch

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[Brian blue]

I hope Everton pull them selves together, with/without Silva

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[Adlab]

It was a good game of football. Two proper teams and two proper managers.

Just watching Utd here. Thoughts, Jones and Otemendi as a CB pairing.?!

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[nine nine nine]

With respect Mikus Everton are 3 points off of the bottom 3 and in a relegation battle to the Everton Boards credit they’ve stuck with Silva up to now despite the disappointing results but they have a duty of care to the Club and that can’t go on for ever. That’s not about tribalism mate that’s about survival!

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[nine nine nine]

Pagan@3:26pm Pagan, Nope!

That’s why I’ve said that there needs to be a greater tolerance built in for the VAR like a whole foot being offside.

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