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Nil, I think Alfie is the most clued up in all of this but my understanding is that the final decision remains with the Referee and he’s using VAR to help him take the right decision. But tbh I’m completely confused now as per my post above.? Cheers 999
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Good to see you back Pagan!
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Nine…you and I are confused about decision makeing. I think the FA or whoever it is needs to put out a clear statement for fans on how this works and who makes the decisions. I can see a big problem ariseing if it is not sorted, fans need to understand what they are watching and maybe a brief explanation over the speakers
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Completely agree. Needs clarity and engagement with the audience – i.e. Spectators in the Stadia, and of course, both clubs.
The Loudspeaker/Tannoy is exactly what we need.
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What a liar Paxton is or was. Never let anyone else’s success blind you. It puts you in real bad light.
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Whether you like it or not VAR is here not only to stay but takeover more aspects of the game as technology swiftly improves. It’s normal everywhere.
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Moos…I would agree it is here to stay now but I have reservations if it will improve the game or change it that it becomes unwatchable. I would not like to see the game driven by statistics or technology….it is a game of football….just let them get on with it and get better Referee and his assistants get better and the game to flow. Diving, shirt pulling should be dealt with severely and on the spot.Refs will get it wrong sometimes but technology may also not be without faults.
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Interesting use of VAR in the Women’s World Cup last night, correctly I may add, France were awarded a penalty that was missed by the ref. They then missed the spot kick which was then subject to another VAR review and the penalty was retaken as the keeper moved off her line prior to the ball being kicked.
Although the correct decision was given on both occasions, you can see numerous retakes happening in the coming season for either the keeper moving or encroachment by either side.
Fun times ahead…..Pagan
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Having watched the incident on the BBC sport site, when the second penalty was taken and scored, there was encroachment by the French team, so by the laws of the game the penalty should have been retaken, would seem the VAR is being selectively used in France….Pagan
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encroachment will be done away with next year pagan, no rebounds….
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Steve, I don’t think that’s the case, was proposed but was never put forward as a law change so rebounds will be as they are now, that’s my understanding…..Pagan
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Pretty sure Buffy is right on this one, one shot and that’s it… either a goal or a goal kick (I think)… come to think of it, not sure what happens if it’s not a goal… maybe Peggy is right… bullocks, I’ll get me coat…
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Chuckles, I’m sure it’s not being implemented, it was a suggestion that wasn’t taken any further, will stand corrected though if anyone can find any info….Pagan
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well slap me silly and call me Nancy! just checked up on the rules and not a sign so i bow to your superior knowledge Pagan!
id say taxi for onoe but seems I have to share with the Malmo chuckle brother!
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An article that headlines “no re-refereeing” yet fails to actually deliver an explanation.
I’m assuming it’s alluding to not overturning decisions once the final whistle has blown??
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48903289
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For me, if you have to keep rewatching the incident instead of looking at it once and saying I got that wrong then VAR isn’t doing what it should. Will be interesting to see how many fans are left in the stadiums on night matches when we start getting 20+ mins of time added on in total and fans have trains to catch…..Pagan
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Hardest part of it is, when a player scores a massive goal
Like sterling did againest spurs and celebrates wildly only for the goal to be disallowed. The pure emotion of extremely high to extremely low in
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Sean, that’s pretty much my only problem with VAR. It’s a big one though.
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You’re right,Mak, it is a big issue. The game and it’s beauty is largely down to the fact that it is free flowing, fast, passionate…and subject to human error from players and officials. I would far rather have a few tight decisions go against my team than have the game broken up with 2/3 minute delays to check a very marginal offside decision. We’ve all had decisions go against our teams in the past, we have a moan, and we move on (or most of us do, Chucky ??). And the argument that there is now too much money in the game for decisons to be wrong doesn’t wash either. There was too much money in the game last season and we didn’t have VAR and everyone just got on with it. What’s changed? I think it’s going to be farcical and even if it isn’t, it’s going to severely impact on the spectacle, particularly for the matchgoing fan.
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The big problem is offside – it does not come under the “clear and obvious error” category – it is an objective provable decision – you are either offside or you’re not. But are very tight offside decisions in the spirit of the game? The recently ruled VAR offside goal by England vs USA in the recent women’s World Cup was basically half a boot offside.
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