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  • #10172
    Big Jim
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      Mav, I admit little provocative but it imo and it is just my opinion, the 1-2 scoreline flattered United massively. City dominated the who 90minutes with chances shots possession and territory in that game. Much more so than the 1-6. Where you went down to 10men. And what three of the goals were scored in the last few minites. But hey it’s all about opinions. You are of course correct we have wasted millions on bang average players. But Pep has undoubtedly improved many players this season whereas I don’t think you could say the same for Mouriniho in recent years. Cheers Jim

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      #10174
      maverick1973
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        Jim-Everybody has mate,every-single team in the EPL,named just a few.The biggest of them being Fellaini for Β£27.5m mate,an very ugly human being pretending to be a footballer.

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        #10175
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          To add to 999s point, I’d argue of the two, only Mourinho has won huge titles against the odds. None of Guardiola’s titles have been unexpected, as good as they have been it must be said!

          Mourinho has won the CL with two massively unfancied sides in Porto and Inter. If that’s not proof of coaching prowess, I don’t know what is. He’s clearly going through a poor patch now, but as 999 said, people were writing Pep off last year and saying he doesn’t have the squad to play his way. It’s the exact same thing being labelled at Jose now.

          There’s no denying we should be closer to City but we just can’t continue going from manager to manager with no plan other than to throw more money at it. Jose has shown in the past that he can build very good sides. A poor coach does not beat Pep’s Barcelona (arguably the best side ever) to league title with a record goal tally. He’s being taken to the cleaners by Pep currently but I certainly wouldn’t like to bet against Mourinho finding the winning formula again soon, whether at Utd or elsewhere

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          #10177
          nine nine nine
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            Sean, never the less mate Mourinho is right if this City team are the best City team that the PL has ever seen and they will go again in the Summer window with another round of massive spending improving what is already a great City team/squad and the chasing pack will have to spend big / be successful in the Summer transfer market because the last thing the PL needs is the title race being over before the New Year every season.

            That’s why I’m pleased Liverpool bought VVD rather than City as Conte said only last week other clubs can’t afford to let City buy all the best players.

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            #10191
            Big Jim
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              Nine, did you seriously believe VVD was going to end up at City? It was never likely imo. He wouldn’t want to sit on the bench as a backup centre half and conversly I very much doubt City would pay any where near what liverpool have paid for what would be a third choice centre half at City behind Stones and Otamendi. 30 or 40 mill tops thats why we were interested in Johnny Evans at arround 25m. Liverpool’s defensive need is far greater than ours and if Klopp can can him back to his best he will be a quality signing for them. It’s also not possible for one team to buy all the best players across the European Leagues that’s just Conte talking complete rubbish imo. Also Pep generally doesnt really do marque signings since he has been at City.

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              #10192
              nine nine nine
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                Jim, who knows mate on form VVD imo is good enough to start for City but he’s not worth Β£75m. Best for everyone he went to Liverpool.

                I do though think Conte’s comment was pertinent and correct.

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                #10194
                Big Jim
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                  Nine how many top strikers and midfielders can a premiership side keep happy? 6 midfielders tops. 2 possibly 3 strikers. Rumours are we are struggling to keep Aguero happy. And we certainly have no room at all in midfield. So how on earth would we be able to buy all the best players. Contes remarks were purely mourinihoesk and riidiculous.

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                  #10196
                  nine nine nine
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                    Jim, I never expected you to agree mate.?

                    However what can’t be argued is that City are currently a long way ahead of all of the chasing pack and the PL title race effectively over before the New Year might be good for City but it’s bad for the PL.

                    So Liverpool signing quality players together with hopefully the other clubs in the chasing pack signing quality player hopefully will make the title race a bit more of a contest next season.

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                    #10198
                    Big Jim
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                      Nine I agree entirely as undoubtedly other clubs will sign players to improve themselves. But you didn’t answer my question mate. How will City sign all these great players when we already have a very good side? One or two possibly three additions a season is what will happen imo. That is what united did under Fergsusson. Cheers Jim

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                      #10199
                      nine nine nine
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                        Jim, I fully expect City to spend big and strengthen further an already great team/squad with at least 2 or 3 top quality signings

                        It’s up to the chasing pack to try and catch City which will require considerable investment/very good buys predominantly in the Summer window.

                        Liverpool have kicked it off with the signing of VVD add Keita to that and a quality Keeper and they won’t be far away imo. The others inc Chelsea will need to follow. Cheers 999

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                        #10209
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                          Citys owners will do whatever they need to do to ensure City remain the dominant force in not only English football but Europe as eell

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                          #10211
                          maverick1973
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                            Moos-The days of domination are long gone mate,in the EPL let alone in Europe where teams like PSG can spend Β£220m on Neymar and another Β£180m on Mbappe.
                            Jim-VVD is much,much better than Otamendi,but yes I agree with everyone,he is not worth Β£75m,nobody bar Messi is.But the world has gone mad indeed!
                            I mean get this;Fellaini is rejecting a offer of Β£150k p/w,wanting more.Even you,Banjo,and I could play better than Fellaini,heck even Nil on Friday night and a few WKD`s.

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                            #10212
                            nine nine nine
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                              Indeed they will Moos which is why the chasing pack of clubs will need to react. Which is seemingly what Liverpool are trying to do with VVD.

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                              #10217
                              sean the sailor
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                                The problem is people write players/managers off way to soon. I wrote stones off last year after a poor season but was totally wrong

                                Vvd is a very good player. Price tag is far to much and my only worry is it will weigh him down but he’s a very good player who has downed tools recently.

                                He has made no errors leading to goals in
                                60 games.we make far to many mistakes

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                                #10218
                                maverick1973
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                                  What are the odds of a player being sold for Β£500m come summer?!
                                  Possible candidates;

                                  Kane.
                                  Hazard.
                                  Dybala.
                                  Neymar.
                                  Messi/CR7-[China]
                                  KDB.
                                  ????!!!
                                  Fellaini.

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                                  #10221
                                  Chucky McChuckface
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                                    And what are the odds Pool will be paying it?

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                                    #10226
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                                      Anyone know who the top wealthiest club owners are? As far as I know its PSG and City owners. Who are the others?

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                                      #10229
                                      Big Jim
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                                        Sorry Mav, based on last season’s form maybe. But this season Otamendi has been outstanding, he had a two footed lunge in him every game last season. Pep has eradicated that and his distribution is now brilliant aswell, he reads the game well and is defends brilliantly. Hes an intergral part of the best defence in the league. Sorry mate but if you think VVD is better you need to give your head a wobble. VVD has been poor. Jim

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                                        #10231
                                        goatistuta
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                                          It’s interesting where VVD stands in this league for centre half’s? Is he no 1 just because his price tag says so or in a top 10 CH’s in the prem where is he? Indeed who are the top 10 CH’s in order in the prem?

                                          Stones and Ottamendi will defo be in that top 10

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                                          #10232
                                          paul powers tash
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                                            Jim-VVD is much,much better than Otamendi,but yes I agree with everyone,he is not worth Β£75m

                                            Maverick.At this moment in time VVD isn’t.How many games has he played this season ?
                                            Otamendi is by a countrymile the better player at this moment imho.I see him play live
                                            every other week.Since Stones has been out.He’s been even more outstanding.Now
                                            he looks like he’s added leadership qualities to his game.Hence Real Madrid have been linked
                                            with him a few times.I agree on paper VVD is better than Ota.But in reality my eyes
                                            don’t lie at this current time.

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