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No chance that happening IMO. i think he is nailed to join Real if he leaves Chelsea. and its time Marina sharpens her negotiation skills for this deal. i will be disappointed if we pocket less than £180m. if Real wants to throw players in to this deal they should throw players worthy of a look. Bale is past his best IMO. too injury prone and is not getting any younger.
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Yep I think you’re right CM and I don’t think Roman would be prepsred to sell Hazard to City.
But if City were to offer £200m say £120m plus Aguero it could happen as much as I wouldn’t want it to happen.
But I think you’ve hit the nail on the head it will primarily be down to what Hazard wants and if he leaves Chelsea I think he only really wants to go to Real.
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Be careful what you wish for. we don’t play a fluid system and Aguero may struggle at Chelsea. the team is built around him for years at City. Pep is now trying to change that. like i said my preference is Isco plus £100m . and having watched Asensio tonight, he isn’t a bad option.
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Cant see City selling Aguero to Chelsea just as I Can’t see Chelsea selling Hazard to City.
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Plus we tried to get Hazard a few seasons ago and he didnt want to come then.
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So its Luis Enrique that we are angling towards. but having looked at him and Conte. he isn’t superior to Conte. infact Conte is better. so i don’t know why our board is pushing Conte out? the man is shaping up the squad to his liking. imagine what he could do if we grant him the freedom to buy his own players?
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Chelsea should resolve this Hazard deal ASAP. We can’t afford this saga to drag on. the more it drags on the more we lose. remember the Sanchez saga and how it started in the summer of 2016/17 season. and eventually Arsenal was forced to accept a deal that is way below his market value. i’m afraid we may face similar scenario if we don’t find a solution this summer.
Sell Hazard if he isn’t ready to sign a new contract. the only thing i will not entertain is selling him to City or United. but selling him to a continental team and getting players that are hungry will be good. Real Madrid is said to want him. then open negotiations with them. this guy is toying us. he said ” i will change clubs when i want” whilst forgetting it will be Chelsea that will be calling the shots in any deal. i’m sick to death in this saga. we can’t have these rumours every season. Get Isco or Asensio whoever they offer and some cash. and move on. no player is bigger than the club.
We can’t afford to entertain side shows. on one interview he says that he admires Zidane, on the other interview he says since his childhood he wanted to play for Madrid. and the other interview he says he is happy at Chelsea. this guy is taking us for a ride. i hope the club takes best decision in the interest of the club. but i don’t trust them. after the revelation that they overruled Antonio Conte about the Michy transfer. and how we have suffered with this false 9 in the two games that we lost badly.
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Cman, no Hazard transfer will get sorted whilst we are still competing in competitions and this wont get settled either way until the end of the season because Hazard is leaving his options open. Neither will we sell him to either City or United without they offer completely stupid money say £300m. Which I very much doubt even they would be prepared to do.
That’s the way it is mate but Chelsea are still in a strong position and will only sell reluctantly and then only on their terms and then probably only to Real and PSG.
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It’s make your mind up time for Hazard this summer, if he won’t sign his new contract then he has to go, if we leave it ‘til the next summer then we won’t get his market value…..Pagan
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I always thought that Neymar would end up at Madrid. If he goes this summer hazard could well stay at Chelsea.
I can’t see anyone in Hazard’s bracket wanting to move to PSG, Neymar did, but I think that was more as a stepping stone before Madrid.
Ronaldo is still scoring at Madrid – though some of his performances have been criticised this season, but I think that is more to do with his high standards than anything else. I can’t see Ronaldo leaving as his fee would still be ridiculous, and his wages astronomical. His presence limits the need for another superstar.
I think either Bale or him would probably need to leave first, and both have question marks over who would buy them and where they would be happy to end up.
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CHM-You should know mate that these days -the player/s hold all the power in their hands,not their club/s.It does not matter @ all if a player has signed a new long-term contract or not.i.e.Coutinho.The only thing the new contract adds to the whole process is that that the selling club can and will demand more for the player!
As for RA selling to City or United,as 999 says,it will only happen for a stupid sum,which lets face it,Hazard is not worth,and I doubt either club is willing to pay! It is obvious to everyone with a brain that Hazard is keeping his options open,and fans should understand if a player wants to join the biggest 2 clubs in the world football-Real or Barca!
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a fully fit bale is still in my opinion in the top 5 players in the world but the problem is how often is he fully fit? if he get his fitness back and sort out these issues he has then any team in the world would be lucky to have him
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Alfie-CR7 is going-on for 34 mate,and Bale will be 29 this summer and injury-prone.
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Apart from his age. i feel Ronaldo can play in any team and any league. he is a player who knows when to raise to the occasion. but at 33 next month, i would say his best days are behind him. will he have the physicality to cope with the PL at his advanced age? i have my doubts. as for Bale. i haven’t been his biggest fan always. apart from his last season at Spurs and his first season at Madrid. he has always been inconsistent to be considered the top 5 best players in the world. these are my bets, Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Suarez,Griezmann/Hazard. personally i won’t be too keen if Chelsea is offered to him. my preference is the younger ones. Isco/Asensio either of them. and if push comes to shove, Isco is my man. as he knows how to dribble past players.
Hazard has make a decision. and i suspect Madrid may have turned his head already. grant him his wish get as much as you can. he has reached the end of the cycle with us.
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CHM-99% of what we read in the media is pure garbage mate,I would not believe any of it until it actually happens!
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Well in less than 25 minutes Ronaldo has gotten a year younger! But my point was who will buy him? Madrid would require a ridiculous fee for him – regardless of age.
Bale could be 28/29/30/31, but on his wages and with his injury record willhe be moving anytime soon?
Madrid will want to get a decent fee in for either. And if it comes down to age, how much younger is Hazard than Bale? This could be similar to Utd swapping a young and promising Miki to Arsenal in return for an over-the-hill Sanchez and then everyone finding out there is less than a month between them.
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CHM-CR7 celebrated his 33th earlier this month mate.
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Bale and Hazard? Bale will be 29 by July. Hazard is 27. there is a two year gap between them. and age factor aside. I would be skeptical about Bale’s fitness. as those who have followed football will tell you. the more injury you get the more you lose a yard of your pace. and Bale has had a few injuries in the last 4 years. while Hazard has only one major injury in his 6 years at Chelsea. so his fitness record is better. What we need is a younger player with good fitness record. and of the two younger players i would take them even if they are not in Hazard’s level yet. but they are young and can adapt their game.
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Cman, Bale will be 29 in July whilst Hazard turned 27 in January so there’s a circa 18 month age difference between them.
The age of Bale wouldn’t overly worry me given that Hazard is 27 that could be balanced out in the valuation of Bale in any deal deal for Hazard.
The big problem is Bale’s injury record and as you rightly say a player who tends to be injury prone will probably see him suffer from more injuries as he ages further.
But if Real were for instance to offer circa £200m Hazard ( the Sunday Express suggest Real are looking to do a deal on £100m plus Bale so if true we’re not a million miles away.
Bale thrown into the deal as a £50m makeweight might make sense though even with his injury record if Chelsea’s medical people think they can get him fit and keep him fit.
It might come down to all of the above plus how much Real really want Hazard and demonstrating that with thier offer for Hazard and their valuation of Bale and Bale as an ex Spurs man being prepared to come to Chelsea.
Tbh I wouldn’t completely rule out such a deal just yet. Still prefer Hazard to sign a new contract though.
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Its all about opinions in this forum. but i’m in the camp that feels Bale is past his best and won’t be a useful addition to our squad. but i stand to be proven wrong. the man is too injury prone. and as you know in our last two transfer windows we have bought injured/previously injured players. and i will be wary about adding another historically injured player. on the other hand Hazard is the only technically gifted player that we have, or may be i should add Willian but not in the Hazard class. which means if we lose him, we will have no other player who can take on the defences. in that case Bale isn’t technically gifted footballer. although i would admit he is a good player, i’m not worried only about his age. i’m also worried about his adaptation to the game. given that he has had this recurring injury in the last 5 years. don’t you see he will be losing a yard of his pace? 18 months isn’t a big gap for me.
i think like you i feel the best deal is to retain Hazard. but if he says he he has a desire to move to Madrid, then he should do this summer whilst we have the bargaining power. or even we come to some sort of agreement with him, and he signs a contract during the season and we sell him in the summer for big fee. i feel that Hazard wants Real Madrid. but he isn’t sure about how things could go. and may be that is why he is delaying his decision til the summer. we will be stupid not to resolve this issue in this summer. but then again we are Chelsea, and anything is possible.
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