The measure of superiority

[Luckydestiny]

If you want all out exciting attacking football then goal average is the way to go as a 5-4 victory is better for the winning team than a 4-0 victory.

How so pagan?

Btw goal average and goal ratio are the same things, if I have used both terms I am referring to the same thing, GF/GA

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[Pagan]

Lucky, yep got that, but if we were to use proper goal average that would be the number of goals divided by the number of matches played (mean as opposed to mode or median) rather than goals scored divided by goals conceded, the ratio of the two, that could make for more exciting games…Pagan

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[Luckydestiny]

Yes but to only value goals scored per game and give no credit to the defensive strength of a team?

I do think it is worth remarking that we all want entertaining games and lots of goals…when we are watching other teams. When we are watching our own teams we want our defence to be solid and dont want to be scored against at all. We truly value defence so it should be reflected in any measure of a teams strength imo, not just because fans want their teams to be good defensively, but because being good defensively in itself is a strength worth crediting

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[Luckydestiny]

Besides Pagan, I am not talking about goal average as an incentive for teams to change the way we play, just a decent tool for comparing the performances of teams over 38 games

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[Nike19]

Lol, just don’t ever watch Serie A 😛

In the PL mind you, you can get entertaining 0-0 draws.

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[Luckydestiny]

Nil, Seria A post videos with match highlights on you tube now. Worth watching and bags of goals.

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[Pagan]

Lucky, cricket uses the ratio of runs for and runs against, but then they can’t use run difference due to the fact that unlike football, grounds can be vastly different sizes and hence have higher run totals.

Good thread, enjoyed it….Pagan

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[Luckydestiny]

Got to have something to chatter about in international break havent we 🙂

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[Chucky McChuckface]

Nothing worse than watching a thrashing if you’re a neutral… I don’t even bother with City/Liberoools games anymore… just turn on if it’s 1-0 with 20 to go…

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[Chucky McChuckface]

We all know you just liked the vid at the top, Peggy!!

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[Luckydestiny]

EDITOR AND ALL UTD FANS

To be fair this may also be of interest to non utd fans, but check this video out about how fergie adapted through his reign at utd. If you go back to my post @1.29pm (page 2) you will see how these changes are also highlighted by the GF/GA average and fit with the analysis in the vid also

Personally I think it shows just how much of a genius manager SAF was, he could always go again and rise to the challenges others bring. Arsenal raised the bar, utd responded, then chelsea, utd responded, then city and utd responded. He truly was a class apart.

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[Chucky McChuckface]

Bloody hell, I thought your bloody Goal Difference nonsense was boring, don’t start with Rudolph!! 🙂

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[Luckydestiny]

Its true though banjo, all heads must bow, and all tongues must confess, fergie was the boss.

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[Chucky McChuckface]

Domestically yes, unrivaled across Europe with regards to domestic domination, I have no problem saying that, but in Europe? Towards the top of the tree, but perhaps not the very top!!

Anyway, he turned down the Spuds before he went to UnYooUtd, always a tosser in my book! 🙂

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[Luckydestiny]

Not many managers have won 2 european titles though. In the older days when liverpool and others won it as often as they did, there wasnt as many elite teams to be fair. With the likes of Juve, munich, madrid and barca amongst others, a champs league was always a tough ask. I dont think Fergie always had teams full of world class players either, and man for man I think most seasons there were better squads throughout europe.

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[Nike19]

That was actually an interesting video. Quite like how United played in the early 90s when they had Giggs and Kanchelskis. The level of their pace meant they keep to an orthodox full-back system which meant opposition teams could find very little space to exploit their flanks. Cantona those days would either spray the ball from midfield or support the attack by putting his own self in the box. Don’t forget too, they had Ince and Keane in midfield and this was all before the class of 92.

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[Luckydestiny]

Just had a quick look at la liga champs over last few years and their averages.

Barca 18/19 – 2.5
Barca 17/18 – 3.4
Real 16/17 – 2.6
Barca 15/16 – 3.9
Barca 14/15 – 5.2

compare to last five PL champions

Man city(18/19)-4.13
Man city(17/18)-3.92
Chelsea(16/17)-2.58
Leicester(15/16)-1.89
Chelsea(14/15)-2.28

Traditionally we have all thought of la liga as an easier league for top teams to navigate. 5 years ago chelsea won the PL and Barca won La liga, and if you accept the goal average as a general measure of how strong a team is relative to its opposition that year, then you can see the average reflects the traditional narrative with barca scoring ridiculous 5.2 and jose’s chelsea 2.28.

Look at the trend since though, it seems to be going the opposite direction and now the prem league seems easier to win for the top team than la liga, with city scoring 4.13 to barca 2.5.

I think we havent fully accepted just how much better liverpool and city are to the rest, I think they are going to be miles ahead again this year. Chelsea, Arsenal, Man utd and spurs are the ones to blame though, not city or liverpool.

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[Chucky McChuckface]

You really need to get a girlfriend… 🙂

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[Luckydestiny]

You single darling? 🙂

I work from home and sometimes it can be very very slow.

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[Chucky McChuckface]

I wish I was single, but then again, Puppy says you are allowed to change your wife, just not your football club… promise not to wear one of those rags to bed and you might be in with a shout!

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