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Oh absolutely Lucky, he certainly didn’t underachieve. He did a good job, just not a great one IMO.
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Yeah, I wouldn’t argue with that. Mind you, someone doing just a ‘good’ job would be a move in the right direction for certain clubs in the Premiership!!
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Too right Hightown.
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So, we’re all in agreement? Poncho is overrated due to what Harry Redknapp did in 2008? 🙂
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So, back to the Poncho days already, let in a sloppyish goal in the 5th minute of the game so the other team can spend 85 minutes defending the lead… reckon I’ll just go to bed now… night all…
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Understand the context Chucky, overrated doesnt mean bad or average, it literally means given more credit than due, not that no credit is due.
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100% win rate for Jose in prem and champs league now chucky, miles better than Poch. I will complete my analysis and get back to you tomorrow 😉
Best thing about a spurs win is I know you’re smiling fella.
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Manchester United managerial target Mauricio Pochettino is reported to have made one major demand of the club ahead of what’s been described as his likely appointment at the end of the season.
Pochettino was sacked by Tottenham in November after a poor start to the season, just five months after leading the club to their first Champions League final.
However, the Argentine remains very much a man in demand and continues to be linked with the United hot-seat, while he was even mentioned as a contender for the Barcelona job ahead of their decision to go with Quique Setien as Ernesto Valverde’s replacement.
But it is links with United that remain most prevalent, amid claims the Red Devils could show Solskjaer the door if they fail to qualify for the Champions League again next season.
As such, talkSPORT journalist Phil Brown claims that United have held secret discussions with Pochettino about taking over at the end of the season. Furthermore, it’s claimed the Argentine has given United a certain guarantee he’ll take charge – but not until the end of the season.
“What I’ve been told is United have been talking with Pochettino for a few weeks now,” Brown said. “But he doesn’t want the job until the end of the season.”
Solskjaer appears to have overcome a rocky autumn to get back on track with United, though much of his future in the role will depend on how the rest of the season pans out and despite claims senior United stars had pleaded with the club’s owners not to show the Norwegian the door.
However, Brown is adamant Pochettino has been approached and talks have been held.
“I’ve been told by someone who would know, who I trust 100 per cent and who has given me stuff in the past and been bang on so is clearly informed,” he insisted. “They’ve been talking to Pochettino for a few weeks but most likely if anything happens it’ll be at the end of the season.”
Brown also sensationally claimed that he’s been informed that Pochettino has told United he will only take the job if much-maligned executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward is taken off all football and transfer matters at Old Trafford.
“He doesn’t want the job until certain requirements have been met,” Brown commented in reference to the polarised figure that is Woodward.
And Brown said on his Beyond the Pitch podcast: “Pochettino doesn’t have an agent, Ed Woodward can’t be seen to be talking to Pochettino in public, so they designated an individual who will mediate.
“I can’t say who that individual is. He doesn’t want the job until the summer.
“He demands a director of football guaranteed and the director of football cannot be Ed Woodward.
“He wants full freedom of first-team matters, including who can be sold. (He) wants Ed Woodward to step away from anything football at all and funds to be made available for purchases.”
Pochettino is yet to comment on the latest speculation linking him to United but did state before Christmas that he was “open” to offers.
“When I say I am open, I am open. I cannot say that I am open but I’m closed to someone,” Pochettino said. “It’s different if you receive an approach and you listen and say yes or no. That’s different.
“But you can’t say that I’m open but on that I am not open. You are open and then you are open. Anything can happen.
“When I say I am open, I am open to listen to any club.”
Interesting if true???
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I suspect Utd will opt for Poch for several reasons, but mainly because he is in tune with the way the game has evolved over recent years with organised and high pressing, along with a strong identity. As well as helping to develop players, and having experience in the premier league at a top club. Allegri is quite conservative, and Utd have been there with Mourinho and unsurprisingly failed in trying to get him to play in a bolder way with big names. Nagelsmann doesn’t have the experience even if he is highly rated. Also the Utd job would be a completely different and obviously much bigger job than the Leipzig one is. Be interesting to see how he does with a bigger budget, but like Ed, I still have reservations about him. He’s a very good manager, but for me, he just lacks a certain je ne sais quoi.
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I don’t agree that Poch is over-rated. He’s been released from a a blown out candle of a project. Sometimes you can get too close to something great. I think he’d still be at Spurs had they gone out of the quarter finals of the CL, or something. League form was failing during this run, sure. That is definitely a point against my own stance but I’ve seen his Spurs side and when they were good, they were great. You don’t accidentally make the CL final. They went through City and had the heart to come back and beat Ajax in style that maybe even over-shadowed Liverpool’s 4-0 with Barca.
Like Rodgers at Liverpool, he had everyone believing and then barely missed. That is a kiss of death. Jose has come in now at Spurs, where’s the the manager bounce? Their form is all over the place. They were dreadful against us. They are lucky that we weren’t so great either, or it would have been a slaughtering.
I’ve said it before and I’m not changing my opinion on this, Poch will walk into a top top job when one comes available. Obviously, this is excluding him doing a Rafa and going for a bit of a passion project like Newcastle. I see him going to utd or the likes. Who knows though, it looks like they are backing Ole in the market. of course we have some of those transfers coming in the summer, so he’s got to make it to there… However this new lad who is arriving in January is a pretty incredible talent and should help Utd out immensely. I think Klopp is a fan and even checked on his availability before but was put off by the price.
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Thoughts on Poch being favourite Lucky? 😁
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Lol Ed was waiting for you to fish this one out 🤣
My thoughts on us in general is until we trim the squad massively and address the balance then whoever is manager is of secondary importance as our collective expectations exceed what I personally believe circumstances allow for any manager if we think we should be seriously challenging anyone at the top.
I don’t think poch is elite but equally I am not sure we deserve any better at the moment as sad as it makes me to say.
If poch is genuinely the best available to us right now I have no option but to accept it and hope for the best.
I do think whoever is next is destined to “fail” too though in terms of what will be expected. I think we will get back in top 4 next year but that will be our ceiling for at least a year or two and likely more. He is a good suit for a club that has same target as spurs 🤣
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😄 no worries Lucky. We have all had to backtrack at some point. It’s ok to change your mind/perspective because, as you allude to, the situation has changed significantly. Just as I now think state ownership is brilliant 🙄😂. Nobody has ever backtracked quite as far as Chucky had to when Mourinho came in to Spurs anyway!
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Unless he proves otherwise with us Ed I haven’t changed my mind, I still don’t think he is an elite coach.
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In a parallel universe, Roman remained in charge at Chelsea, didnt spend all those millions on those players in January, would have sacked Tuchel at the end of this season, and put Luis Enrique in charge in the summer.
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Well hello you sexy buggers. I hope you are all well 👍
Thought it may be worth returning to this one, now that our 12 month trial period with Poch has ended 😉
As of 1st May, Pochettino had won just 13 of his 33 prem games. A terrible win percentage of 39%.
As of 19th May, he had won 18 of his total 38 games, with the win percentage climbing significantly to 47%
Ultimately neither figure is good, and we are lucky to have finished 6th.I am still to determine what the big deal is 😆
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Read somewhere the 2nd half of the season, Poncho would have finished 4th… still crap considering the billions spent but showing signs of something I would have thought… so, who’s next?
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Good to see you return LD. 💯🎊⚽️🎸😎
Personally I think there is a relationship breakdown as Pòch seems somebody with a strong mind. Possibly the same has taken place with De Zerbi on the lines of working conditions.
ETH is on the brink regardless of what he does in the Fa Cup, but there needs to be a replacement sought.
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Hi banjo, God knows who is next, dont think the owners even know!
To a certain extent, who our new coach will be is arbitrary.
All I am scared of is seeing the team destroyed over summer.
I think we missed big opportunity this year for top 4 with no European football and it took poch far too long to get any sort of system in place.
Focus needs to be on the squad and really scared we will lose too many important players. Silva especially, and Connor Gallagher who I can’t believe we are to sell.
I would have preferred continuity and would have given poch next year no doubt. But would you want to be chelsea manager with less than 12 months on contract and no say on transfers? Seems to me poch wanted some assurances and extension to stay, and our owners decided parting ways was best. But maybe poch just said to hell with it and had zero intent on staying also. I think he has had eyes on another job for a few weeks. On the morning of May 1st, he would have had no doubt he was getting sacked at end of season. 5 wins in a row since then probably caught him and the board by surprise!
It’s worrying but I wont cry over Poch, it’s the continuity we could have done with.
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