*The FA Cup Final 2018* Chelsea V Manchester United – Sat 19th May 17:15

[nine nine nine]

TBA, I would have started them both out of choice but if Lukaku tells Mourinho he’s not up to starting I think you have to take notice of what the player tells you. From a Chelsea perspective I’m glad neither started.?

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[nine nine nine]

Sean@9:28pm Spot on Sean when you get to a Final it’s about winning the trophy first and playing attractive football second.

I’m sure you and the vast majority of Liverpool fans would settle for a One nil hard fought win next Saturday!? Cheers 999

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[Nike19]

Sanchez has done nothing for me since his move and all he has done is cover kilometers and very much running up blind alleys. Opposition players suss him out effortlessly and mark him.

He’s turned into a different player since leaving Arsenal.

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[Nike19]

The problem some have with Jose is that he’s not just implemented this approach and style of football for the FA Cup Final, but it’s the course of entire season.

United fans, hardcore fans want good attractive football, and they’re not getting it. Yes, trophies are the ultimate measure and aspiration, but is Jose any different to Van Gaal?

How does somebody like Lakaku turn out to be average under Jose?

It’s him that’s the problem. Some already see it. Other’s don’t want to admit it, even though deep down, they know it.

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[Chucky McChuckface]

I turned it on literally to see Wee Micky slot the peno away, had to wait for HT to see what for… as for the rest of the game, good job I had other things to keep me amused while the game was on in the background. Not a classic for the neutrals, and if I was Pepe I wouldn’t be worried about next year, I know it was a “one-off” but bloody hell, several billions spent between them over the years and that was that…

I wonder how long the YooUtd mob will put up with that dross…

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[Nike19]

Chuckster when I used to play at school with my mates as a teenager, I loved playing either right-wing or striker and was always attack-minded.

I could never play the game in ‘that way’ where I felt I was restricted. I made sure I tracked back and didn’t leave defenders to themselves to mop up.

I guess looking back, this was the reason Serie A never appealed to me in the mid 1990s. I just don’t believe in a Bus-Parking strategy.

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[nine nine nine]

“When I used to play at school with my mates as a teenager, I loved playing either right-wing or striker and was always attack-minded.

I could never play the game in ‘that way’ where I felt I was restricted.”

Bit different to playing for a top club and Winning an FA Cup Final at Wembley though Nil ! Lol.

8 FA Cup wins for Chelsea now.

Only Arsenal and United have more FA Cups than Chelsea now and 6 FA Cup wins for Chelsea since 2000 joint equal with Arsenal and guess what the record books that name the Winners don’t tell you what kind of game the Final was! ?

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[Editor]

Sean, you say second isn’t good enough for Utd but I’m not sure I agree with that. I’m not saying I’m content with second place but bearing in mind our positions since Fergie retired, it’s a massive sign of progress. Plus, the only team to finish above us have spent shed loads more than us so I’m not sure we can expect to finish above City. For me, only 2 or 3 of our players would be guaranteed starters at any of the other top 4 clubs so, bearing in mind what Jose has at his disposal squad wise, I’d actually say he’s done very well.

It goes without saying that everyone wants trophies and attacking, attractive football but how many clubs can actually say they give their fans both? City this season are one. I can’t see anyone else providing that on a regular basis. If you can’t have both, winning is all that matters. Nobody would choose to lose playing pretty football over winning playing less attractive football, or I certainly hope not!

Disappointing season, sure, but a better one than everyone else bar City unless Liverpool pull off an upset in the CL which would paper over their indifferent league campaign this season. Klopp gets all the plaudits for the win against City at Anfield but that game aside, they’ve taken very few points against the other top 6 sides this season, less than half of what Utd have.

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[maverick1973]

Ed- Disappointing season, sure, but a better one than everyone else bar City unless Liverpool pull off an upset in the CL which would paper over their indifferent league campaign this season .And Chelsea too cos they won a trophy yesterday!

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[Editor]

Yep, Chelsea too Mav. Almost forgot about them!

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[Nike19]

Yes Nine, I do know the difference between pro and playground football – I was just making a point!

Arsene stuck to his guns in his philosophy and though he could have nailed more trophies, he was decorative not only in FA Cups, but also Premier League Titles.

You need to strike the right balance mate and not completely ruin the aesthetics of the beautiful game! 🙂

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[Chucky McChuckface]

Sorry Steady Eddy, but considering the amount of wedge Maureen has spunked, I would think 4 points above Spuds and 6 points above Pool should be considered an embarrassment, to be honest. And considering the dross you served up yesterday I’m willing to bet the current 19 point gap will stay above 15 next year too (for everybody!).

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[maverick1973]

I agree completely Kylie babe.

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[sean the sailor]

Agree about our results againest the top 6 ed. We were far better in those games last
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[sean the sailor]

Ed, 4th place for us is huge. So it’s been a brilliant season for us so it’s not papering over anything

People even thought we wouldn’t make top 4.we haven’t had successive cl qualification for 9 years. Never mind our cl run. Lose on sat and it’s still a good season for us.

You say how can utd compete with city then how do you expect Liverpool and spurs to compete with utd? Liverpool sold couthino and bought vvd. Klopp doesn’t get the credit he deserves.

Look at how thin our squad is. We have well over achieved even getting to the final in his first season in the cl with us.

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[nine nine nine]

Nil, good point about getting the balance right with that in mind Chelsea in the 13 seasons have got the balance more right than any other club in the PL.

Winning more trophies than any other club in English football over the last 14 seasons. 5 PL titles, 5 FA Cups, 3 League Cups, 1 Champions League and 1 Europa League.

Liverpool went close to winning the PL title in 2014 playing some great football but the record books show that Manchester City won the title and Liverpool finished 2nd.

Given your continuous moans about how in current times other clubs win trophies and Liverpool don’t presumably you would rather see a winning team first and an attractive team second?

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[Editor]

Sean, I’m not at all saying we shouldn’t be competing with City. I’m saying we shouldn’t be expected to be finishing above them, which is what you’re suggesting by saying 2nd isn’t good enough. The point stands with Liverpool too. Liverpool shouldn’t EXPECT to finish above the likes of City and Utd (and they didn’t anyway!) but Liverpool should be taking more than 10 points from 10 games against the other top 6 sides.

Chucky, the fact he’s spent a lot of money is a separate point. He hasn’t spent well at all IMO but in terms of getting a lot out of an average squad, I think he’s done a good job. Tell me, how many of our players would be guaranteed a start for your Spuds? Not many I’m guessing. Still we made Spurs look very ordinary in the semi and never looked like finishing below Spurs at any point.

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[Nike19]

Nine, can’t argue with any of that in fairness.

Like we both agree on getting the right balance, and perhaps if Wenger properly for example did address the Viera void from the off, then they too may have won more titles/trophies.

You guys played some sensational stuff around 09/10 (think Scholari was in charge).

And re 13/14 for us, we lost our bottle in the end and needed to be pragmatic which Brendan Rodgers with all due respect to him lacked tactical knowhow.

I’m just saying mate with the amount of dosh Jose has spent together on this current United team, I’d be expecting a whole lot more.

Cheers

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[Chucky McChuckface]

Hurrah, you made us look “average” during the semi… you’ve obviously forgotten how “average” you made us look in the League at Wembley (that was the game where your world record signing got subbed off and you new 600k a week winger was playing left-back in the dressing room! 😉 ). You YooUtd boys need to stop playing this buying dross/average squad record, how many of that squad won titles with Fergie around? A fair few I reckon. The fact you’ve wasted hundreds of millions since his departure isn’t going to win you any sympathy with the ABU’S, is it?

We all look forward to seeing how many hundreds of millions Maureen get’s to spunk this year, might even extend the gap over Pool and Spuds to maybe even 10 points… 🙂

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[sean the sailor]

Ed, fair points about Liverpool

How is utds squad average?

Look at the players in the squad. Full of really good players who are not performing.

Look at Jose’s signings? Who has been a real success

Lackau
Matic

Look st the rest.hes brought 8-9 players in. It’s his squad now.

It’s a very good squad which if given a bit of freedom, can play some good football

City bought well. They have never bought a player for 90m or 75m.they bought well and the players performed. You can spend big but use the money well.

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