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Nine, you’ve said your piece, I’ve said mine. I’ve moved on. Contrary to whatever goes on here, I’m actually very easy to get on with in the outside world and work too. I am placed in a lot of responsible positions – that must all be for a reason.
That’s it. I’ve taken on board your thoughts.
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Mak, I should of rephrased it, technically in accordance to the rule book VAR did its job. I agree with you the decision was wrong and VAR should of prevented it but as the evidence was inconclusive then it cannot overturn the decision the ref.
Has there ever been a more contentious addition to the game than VAR?!
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Chucks @ 2:15, all agreed mate. I like times my vote by 1000 hehehe 🙂
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Chuckles, although it doesn’t really bother me what Mr. Balance says, it’s his duplicity, anyone mentions anything slightly negative about Liverpool and he wants his own safe space Liverpool only page, but he thinks he can say what he likes as long as he says sorry the next day. Well now it’s open season next time he starts…..Pagan
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Nil best way to both show your apology is sincere and you are ready to move on is by proving it in reality. I think my suggestion you have a break from the forum during matches might do you the world of good. Post the next day with a clearer head.
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Cheers Peggy! Not often I get something right!! 🙂
And to add, having this current “overruling a clear and obvious mistake” logic is not helping one little bit. There was obviously a mistake with the last peno last night. Why was it not called?
And this passage of play bullocks, how far back does it go?? One of UnYooUtd’s goals against Chelski, one of the goals came from a quick counter from a corner at the other end, where many chaps have suggested there was a foul in the build up. Why was that not checked?? Or does that come under something about being too far back in play or something??
All VAR is doing is highlighting the difference in various referee’s opinions, and isn’t really solving anything.
Okay, last weekend, there weren’t any real major issues of contention, but they’re coming… wait until a real contentious decision goes against one of the big-boys (hopefully Liverpool so Nil can entertain us! 🙂 ) and they lose 3 points!!
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Chucks @ 2:12, I think it’s just purely down to conflict of two different decisions being made but one ultimately ruled by VAR.
It seems the key difference compared to other sports is that it has the authority to overrule a Refereeing decision and not used solely as a Referral point (like Cricket for example).
Cheers
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Var is ruining the game for the supporter. Twice last I just sat there and didn’t celebrate as I thought it might be ruled out
All you keep hearing is checked for var. load of balls
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Mr. Balance, not used to overrule decisions in cricket???. Have you ever watched a game of cricket, DRS is there solely for that purpose……Pagan
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3ps, in my defence I’m rarely even here albeit when Liverpool play. I’m working on a late today and literally going to take off shortly. Been on 6 day working weeks, and only really get time on here to reflect around bed-time or some evenings.
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Decision Review System is more of a Referral and slightly different to VAR. It tends to intervene on instances such as a “run out” Other instances like LBW is judged by the Umpire unless there’s a call for a Referral.
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Chuckles, for me if you have to look at it more than once before saying I got that wrong, it’s not a clear and obvious mistake.
Every decision the ref makes changes the course of the game, the technology is now there, and as such there will be pressure to use it, welcome to the two hour game….Pagan
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If people are citing problems re VAR, some by validity, then what is the Solution?
“It’s ruining games”. People used to argue or have argued for decades re Video Technology to support Referees. Now that’s in place, people are still dissatisfied.
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That’s the ting Nil, in cricket it’s black and white. Umpire says it didn’t hit the bat, the chaps with the reply says it does, overruled.
Take the peno last night, Adrian moved before the ball was kicked, should have been overruled as it was obviously a clear mistake but wasn’t, so what was the fooking point in having VAR??
The peno during the game, have to admit I haven’t seen it in real time, but it sounds like the attacker did what attackers do these days, and felt the bare minimum of contact and when over like a sack of spuds. Ref said yes, VAR hid behind the “well, there was a bare minimum of contact so not overruled” excuse, so not overruled. Sounds like to me the attacker pulled a fast one and VAR already has excuses built into it and passes the buck back to the ref who only has a split second and one viewing to decide. That is why VAR sucks!!
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Mr. Balance, DRS is used to review the decision, and is used to overrule the original decision, it’s used by the actual teams playing to challenge decisions. The umpires can also ask for help on catches, boundaries, run outs where it’s used exactly like VAR….Pagan
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Posts are coming in thicker and faster than you’re average Goonie today!!
Hard to keep track of them all! 😉
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Not posted on here much recently, but thought I’d give my two pennyworth on the penalty incident last night, the referee and the use of VAR. I have been vocal in my opposition to VAR since it was brought in, and my position hasn’t changed. It doesn’t bring anything to the game, but actually detracts from the enjoyment of the game. I think we all agree that it wasn’t a penalty last night and should never have been given, and I’m afraid I blame the referee who otherwise had a very good game. I believe that referees will give penalties more often now, because they are unlikely to be overturned, unless there is a clear and obvious error. From the referees POV, if she doesn’t give a penalty, there is a greater chance that her decision will be overturned if contact is seen to be made, so I think she played safe last night by giving the penalty knowing that there was unlikely to be a clear and obvious error. Adrian admitted in his post match error that he touched the attacker and the attacker touched him, but the ball was travelling out of play and the striker went down very easily, so it was easy to give. As Adrian did touch the striker there was no obvious error, but we all know that shouldn’t have been given. Imagine the scenario if Adrian had caught him and she hadn’t given it…she would have been slaughtered. Now we’re all blaming VAR and the striker for going down too easily. I think it was a cop out on her part, which was a shame as she did very well otherwise.
As I think Nil said somewhere above on both the Liverpool goals, I didn’t instantly celebrate because I thought they would go to VAR – that has surely got to be wrong…even more so when you’re actually at the game. It will be a disaster, as Mikus, Threeps and Pagan have said far more eloquently than I.
Anyway, it was a very good game, and I was very impressed with Chelsea. ‘A chance of sneaking 6th place’ says 9 – ha, you don’t kid me 9. That side will comfortably be top 6, and have a shout at top 4 if Pulisic settles quickly, and Kante stays fit. Glad to win some silverware from the Reds POV, but ever so slightly concerned with our defence. VVD was dire last night, Robbo looks leggy already, Gomez shouldn’t be playing ahead of Matip at the moment, and Trent is regularly caught out of position…and of course Allison is out for a while. So while I’m not panicking yet, I still make City big favourites to clean up again.
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And as for Nil’s rant last night, it’s not anything new and it was just a matter of time. So early in the season is a bit of a concern though!!! I like Nil and like Chucky, some of his rants just make me laugh, but last night was offensive and the apology this morning was a joke. As Steveo said it was funny when he just ignored people telling him to shut it as though they weren’t there. Last night made me think he is either a dickhead or he has mental health issues, but Pagan, I implore you don’t have open season on him when a Liverpool result goes wrong. There are a lot of decent Liverpool fans on here who don’t want the abuse that Nil dished out last night. You are neither a dickhead or have mental health issues, so don’t stoop to that abuse please.
For the most part this forum would be a poorer place without Nil, but Jesus, he’s on thin ice, so Nil, if you have a drink problem or mental health issues, I feel for you but try and rein it in for all our sakes, not least yours. If you are just a dickhead, you can do one. You’re doing none of us any favours.
I’ve said my peace, but I fear he will do it again.
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“Var is ruining the game for the supporter. Twice last I just sat there and didn’t celebrate as I thought it might be ruled out
All you keep hearing is checked for var. load of balls”
As someone who is generally in favour of VAR, I felt this last night also and it definitely isn’t good. I have a feeling it may be a rough season, as I think the implementation of VAR and other rules (looking at the new handball rules) could get very nasty.
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