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Something seems off. His body language isn’t great, makes the wrong decisions, struggling to get past players. Doesn’t work hard enough or close players down when needed to.
He is either playing with an injury or the big contract has made him complacent.
On current form he shouldn’t be playing.
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He seems to try too hard when he has the ball, the simple pass is on to a team mate in a better position, but he will try and beat the man and end up losing the ball. I wonder if he wants to kick start his season with a wonder goal?
However, there is no excuse for the lack of press and the lack of running back at times.
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Or maybe because he’s A) English & B) YooUtd acadamy product, he’s just been a bit over hyped and maybe isn’t actually that good?
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Maybe he would have been a squad player or impact player under Sir Alex. But Utd have bought that badly for so long heβs probably the best theyβve got there and heβs been rewarded accordingly with the contract. So heβs now more under the limelight. So in that sense, heβs maybe another symptom but not a cause of the whole debacle going on at Utd.
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He has always been a quality player. Problem is he came through really young and the mismanagement caused his development to hinder.
Last season wasn’t a fluke. He was playing with alot of hunger and drive. This season his attitude is the complete opposite.
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It really is quite odd. There was a season or so before last season where I, and many others, questioned whether he was having a similar decline to Dele Alli where he just seemed to lose confidence and form. It then became apparent he was playing through quite a lot of pain before finally having shoulder surgery. Then last season, he just seemed to find the same kind of form and confidence he had when he first broke through, running at players with no fear and scoring from everywhere on the pitch.
At his best, he’s amongst the most dangerous attacking players in Europe. At his worst, he’s completely anonymous. So I don’t think he’s overhyped per se. He just seems to be one of these players who is entirely dependent on form and being in the right frame of mind. The very top players maintain those high standards and Rashford is now at an age where it’s now or never if he’s to show he can do it over a sustained period and not suffer these huge dips in form. He’s also not the greatest at pressing from the front which puts a lot of onus on the rest of the attacking line to do that. It really is time he was dropped and Ten Hag needs to give him a kick up the ass to show him he needs to earn his place again.
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Sweddy, but you can say that about all players, “at his best etc..”, every player can look like a world beater when they’re on form… I think the issue with Rashford is that those days are not often enough for him to be considered a “top-draw” player…
Look at his stats… not including this season, he’s averaged less than 10 goals a season for his entire career in the Prem (and this season it’s 1 goal in 7!)… for an attacking team that creates as many chances as YooUtd I would say thats not that impressive for a “top-draw” player…
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Ryan Giggs was considered decent by most, apart from certain Spurs fans.
672 appearances and 114 goals.Rashford has made 246 appearances and scored 77 goals. So is doing rather well, especially considering the success of the team in Gigg’s era.
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Beckham 265 apps and 62 goals.
Maybe none of our wingers were ever top drawer.
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So he’s a winger now? Thought he was a stirker…
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Sod it, let’s call him a LB in which case he’s brilliant! π
(And to be honest, always thought Goldenballs was overated, half of his hype was due to being a pretty boy and marrying a Spicegirl, on the front pages more than the back!)
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I have to agree with Nancy
Overhyped not his fault but he has a poor attitude not helped by the constant manager changes and other madness going on at United
One good season is all but us relied on as the main man and saviour which he isnβt and canβt be as to much pressure
Never tracks back either very lazy and selfish
Many talented English players have been this way
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Chucky, for someone who watches more of our games than most I am surprised you think he is a striker! He has played left wing for a number of seasons now. I thought that was fairly obvious. Hojlund is the striker and Weghorst was brought in last year to replace Ronaldo. He occasionally plays as a striker if everyone else is injured, but he will play on the wing again tonight, and at the weekend and next week…
Varane is pretty shit as a striker though, needs to get in the box more.
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You can’t compare Giggs and Beckham’s stats to Rashford, completely different positions and different systems. Giggs and Beckham were wingers whos job was mainly to provide for the 2 centre forwards. This is not how football is played any more and Rashford is a “forward” whos job is mainly to score goals AND provide for the 1 striker. Football has changed and anyone who plays in the front 3 is expected to get goals. Just look at the liverpool lads. Salah and Mane got more goals than Firmino or whoever was playing up top.
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Don’t watch that much Alfie, generally keep and eye on the score and if you’re losing with 10 to go then I normally tune in if time allows just for a laugh… (so, it would be fair to say I’m only watching the “shitty” performances whereby young Master Rashford isn’t the only one who’s looking pants).
Anyway, not saying he’s a bad player, he isn’t, but I don’t think he’s that great either… I reckon teams with serious title asperations would improve that position…
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Chucky-
Rashford goal average is no different to Son or Mane the last 4 years, where he gets 10+ in the PL and 20+ in all competitions and played in similar positions.
Rashford plays as a wide forward. Salah is the only wide forward who gets a considerably a lot of goals. If you have a look at the top scorers within the last 4 years, the top 5 are mostly strikers i.e. Kane, Toney, Wilson, Haaland last season.
Son is playing up top this season as a striker, which has helped his goal tally this season.
Rashford work rate seems off this season, that is not down to what you think of him as a player, but more down to attitude and effort. That what is original post was about if you compare his work rate and attitude to last season. He is running and chasing back a lot less.
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Would that be the same Son who won the Golden Boot a couple of seasons back? π
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Would that be the same Son who won the Golden Boot a couple of seasons back?
Well if he doesn’t do it every season, he’s not top drawer π.
I always thought Bale was over-hyped but it didn’t stop the Spurs fans getting over excited every time he got the ball did it? π
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Rashford league goals the last 5 years-
2018-2019- 10
2019-2020- 17
2020-2021- 11
2021-2022- 4
2022-2023- 17Son league goals-
2018-2019- 12
2019-2020- 11
2020-2021- 17
2021-2022- 23
2022-2023- 10Mahrez-
2018-2019- 7
2019-2020- 11
2020-2021- 9
2021-2022- 11
2022-2023- 5Grealish-
2018-2019- 6
2019-2020- 8
2020-2021- 6
2021-2022- 3
2022-2023- 5Considering Rashford is 6 years younger than Son and Mahrez, and 3 years younger than Grealish, he truly only had 1 bad season compared to other wingers who consistently played within the last 5 years.
He also averages 20+ goals in all competition. Not bad for a player who is considered over hyped. If he was throwing those numbers at Spurs, I am sure he would be talked about on the same scale as Bale and Son.
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Rashford is a world class talent on his day. He has everything in his locker , he has all the attributes of mbappe. Strange one. Just up and down looks unhappy at times
He divides utd fans but take him out of tye side and thereβs no real attacking threat from utd. The new lads going to dribble by players like rashford. He needs a supplier and maybe rashford needs to pass it a bit more. One of tye best attacking players in the pl on his day.
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