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Completely agree 999. Utd and Mourinho are a match made in heaven as far as the press are concerned. Both sell papers like nobody else and the combination of the two keeps them all in a job.
It is frankly ridiculous, but not surprising, that Mourinho being a bit miserable is a bigger story than Lloris being caught drink driving. Now imagine if it was Mourinho drink driving! It would have dominated the headlines for days. It’s sad but the press aren’t stupid. They know what sells.
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Wonder if it was deliberate him walking out and having a rant after a straight forward question. People talking about him not the team lol. That said no disguising the results even if he did win tactically last night. ?
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Still don’t quite get the “Dipshit” Hugo angle on here chaps, the press reported, nothing has been swept under the carpet, everybody has acknowledged the incident… what else do you expect the press to do? Keep reporting it?
“Breaking News: 5 days ago Spud Captain Hugo was arrested for DUI…
“Breaking News: 6 days ago Spud Captain Hugo was arrested for DUI…
“Breaking News: 7 days ago Spud Captain Hugo was arrested for DUI…
And yes, I’m a bit disappointed he still has the captaincy to be honest…
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Hugo should be punished by forcing him to spend a week in………………. Watford.
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Sounds like the YooUtd Boyz want to send him to Malmo…
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Chucky, it’s not really about whether or not it’s been reported. It’s the column inches given to, in this instance in the opening post, Mourinho being a bit miserable compared to Lloris driving under the influence. Utd fans aren’t necessarily saying he’s gotten off with it or anything. It’s more to do with how serious one is compared to the other and how their level of seriousness/newsworthyness seems disproportionate to the column inches given and their priority in the news.
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Agree totally DUI is a very serious matter and as I’ve said, a little disappointed the Spuds have practically brushed it under the carpet.
But I still don’t understand what else you want/expect the press to do about Hugo.
Moany Mrytal on the other hand, is verbally spewing new nonsense everyday which those press monkeys are lapping up.
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its not about seriousness of offence. its to do with what people want to read about. people dont really care about lloris drink driving. people want to see the soap opera that is mourinho losing the plot.
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Yeah that’s exactly what I was getting at Pax yesterday at 4:53. My point was just that it’s crazy that Jose moaning is more newsworthy than someone potentially risking lives, but I know that the press are just feeding society’s demand for stories. So, again, I get why it is as it is but it doesn’t make it right.
Chucky, I think it just deserved to be a bigger story than Jose being a bit miserable. As you say Mourinho is just being Mourinho. Why do people care more about him being as he always is, than a World Cup winning keeper potentially risking lives?
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As I said earlier on this thread “idiot footballer drives under the influence” isn’t really that newsworthy we all know they’re idiots.
Having said that Lloris’s misdemeanour was pretty well covered by the media and got similar back page coverage as Jose’s iffy press conference in some of the Red tops. But Jose’s press conference following the Brighton defeat was judged more newsworthy by the media and it probably was given the level of posts about Mourinho currently on football forums.
Jose is the gift who keeps on giving to the media especially when things aren’t going his way and everyone bar the majority of United fans like to read about his latest gaffs because he’s the pantomime villain of football particularly amongst rival fans.
The only thing that will stop this latest feeding frenzy is United going on a winning run and the pressure lifting off of Jose staying with Burnley away at the weekend.
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I think that’s a bit harsh on footballers Nine! ? Surely Mourinho being Mourinho is less newsworthy than Lloris potentially risking lives. All I can say is if someone came up to me and said
“Mourinho was just really unpleasant in a press conference”, I would barely bat an eyelid. But a footballer as high profile as Lloris being charged for something as stupid as that is something I’d at least give a reaction to. But maybe that’s just me.
As you say, it’s definitely reflected in football forums etc so I can absolutely see why they did it the way they did. I would have done the same because clearly people care more about Mourinho doing what he always does, for some reason! But all I’m saying is that I don’t think that makes it right.
Put it this way. If Mourinho was charged for drink driving and Lloris was a bit miserable in a press conference, I can guarantee you we would barely see a word about Lloris but we’d be reading about Mourinho for weeks!
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ed – its very sad but thats the world we live in now. lloris whilst a superstar footballer isnt high profile enough for them to write about or for people to care about. people would rather follow the mourinho story and make memes about it to post online. as i said earlier, its not the severity of the offence that is the story, its the person. its not right, but its where we are.
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As long as Hugo didnt injure anybody,the lad was celebrating winning the WC,give him a break-or a kit-kat…
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Ed, clearly Lloris’s offence was miles worse than Jose’s but it’s not what the masses want to read about they would much rather read about Jose’s latest gaffs and meltdowns. Not saying it’s right it’s clearly nit but sadly that’s how it is currently.
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Mav, sorry mate I can’t agree with that Lloris could have killed someone driving as he did when unfit to drive due to drink. The fact that he didn’t is fortunate because instead of a driving ban he could have been facing a jail sentence.
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The media builds up a profile just to shoot it down. They go OTT time after time, Wenger, Conte and many others… It is not or should be earth shattering news, needs perspective. Pep will be in the fireing line soon enough but Mourinho has the pack chaseing him for now.They have no other topic to report on, why cannot they see good things at times? The same applies to publishing mind numbing odds to when a manager gets the sack. The media , in general are transfixed on bring bad news to the front, killing, stabbings, global warming etc etc…the reason I stopped buying papers although admit my wife still buys, except at weekend when she gets fed up with all the “ads” supplements etc so goes without. Less for the bin she claims!!!!
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maverick and Nine….both your arguments cannot be equated. Lloris broke the law, nothing to do with football and the Courts will settle that, as it should be. Mourinho is trated badly by the media because they want him to be as he is…makes reporting easy but not responsible. None of them have looked for reasons why these things happen and nobody has a divine right to win titles be it Jose, Pep, Wenger, who found out later in his life and I suspect Poch and Klopp. cast your mind back a few years to managers who were up and coming and are now in obscurity You do not have to win the title to be a good manager, it is a target to achieve, nothing more. The only problem with that view is the “investors” want it. Once upon a time you went to a football match to enjoy 22 players trying to get a result.We are in a different era now and global football, as I predicted, is now entering its early stages. Managers, I suspect, will change teams because they will be franchised like players…its coming guys….I will not be participating
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9-That I agree completely,thats why I said the main thing is nothing tragic transpired of Hugo driving under the influence.
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Ok here’s the elephant in the room.. I don’t buy into this pity for Man U or Mourinho…why.?
Mourinho has used the football media in an unprecedented way for over 15 years, much in the same way Katie Price has used the media. Neither can now burst into tears wringing hands blubbing “why all the focus on me!” They have continually demanded media attention and have taken every narcissistic opportunity to court more…In Mourinho’s case it’s rarely “we”, respectful to everything Man Utd was and almost constantly I. I demand respect, I won this trophy etc.. IT SHOULDN’T BE ABOUT YOU JOSE, ITS about MAN U and your contribution to their unprecedented situation…free fall! YOU are a major reason for this!
He hasn’t the ability to compete with Guardiola, Klopp, Pochettino or probably Chelsea…. and he’s slowly realizing it..
Or like a serial divorcee. He’s on a very lucrative 3 year cycle of divorces?? However, Chelsea were left in FAR better shape than Utd will be…Epic fail, perhaps latterly on purpose to remove him from the spotlight of 2nd best team in Manchester and 3rd best team in the North West for at least the next few years!! He’s not got the ego to cope or ability to train the undoubted talent he has already.Like a playground bully, at the richest clubs with excellent expensively acquired squads, he’s chosen to spout poison about any manager he’s considered a threat… name another manager other than Alladyce or Ferguson who chosen this appalling behavior? Mind games my arse.. just immature unprofessional rhetoric. The media are simply reminding him of the plinth he’s built himself and his own bile.. No class Jose..
That’s why I called a reality check on Mourinho and Utds general trend in April, fully expecting them to win the FA Cup and easily finish 2nd, probably no more than a dozen points behind the leaders… then replace players who wanted out already, with expensive finished products..
It was a smokescreen for a club in decline in all areas..
He refers to his two trophies..none of Europes top teams takes these seriously and he celebrates finishing by 6 defeats behind the league winners? Hardly the work of a genious with Utds resources…Read the reality check early pages… Arrogance and rose coloured wealthy glasses were hiding the fact by many Man U supporters.
Mourinho simply isn’t a TOP manager and has behaved abominably for many years.. The Donald Trump of football!!
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I think you’ve missed my point Mick. The last thing I want is for people to feel sorry for Mourinho or Utd. I certainly don’t want any pity. The day I want pity for my club is the day we well and truly have fallen from grace!
Again, I’ll reiterate the point I’m trying to make. I understand why Mourinho creates headlines. If people are entertained by reading about Mourinho being miserable and boring then they’ve plenty of material to trawl through. It’s hardly a unique event, is it?
World Cup winning keeper Lloris driving under the influence, and potentially endangering lives, is a unique event. Something I wouldn’t have foreseen. It’s a story that intrigues me. As a Utd fan, I have zero interest reading about Mourinho’s latest whinges in his press conferences, so I’m genuinely intrigued as to how his actions keep non-Utd fans interested.
Again, I would have done absolutely the same thing, in putting the Mourinho stories on the front page. For some reason, people don’t tire of him and he sells papers.
My point all along, if I haven’t been clear enough, is that it’s entirely understandable but, to me personally, baffling.
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