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The way I’m looking at it, say the TOP 5 of the PREM are already in it.. then it’s 6/7/8 the prem that have the chance to quaulify for it… maybe 1 or 2 of them managed to stay in it and work they’re way up the table… etc… etc… every team in everybody’s respective league has a chance to qualify for it finishing as high up the table as possible (makes the national leagues fare more interesting!), everybody in the qualifying tournament has a chance to qualify for the Euro leagues.. etc.. etc.. everything is open to all, and if a “big-club” doesn’t perform, then they’re out (or at least relegated in the Euro League!)
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No banjo, once set up 3 teams from the bottom tier of ESL can be relegated each year….that means each year there will be only 3 new places available to teams across all of Europe.
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So? Only 3 teams get relegated from the Prem each year… I didn’t think for one minute it would be 12 in 12 out or something like that… (although more than 3 would be preferred!)
Okay, Sophie’s Choice here… you have to make a “Euro League” format, or your budgie gets strangled, so what format would you have that you think would keep the beancounters, TV and fans happy? What would your compromise be?
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“So? Only 3 teams get relegated from the Prem each year”
Banjo you are thicker than a five guys milkshake π
Yes only 3 championship clubs can get promoted per season, but that is 3 out of just 24 or 1 in 8!
The super league would allow just 3 new clubs from across all of Europe and the money awarded to those in top tier will pretty much cement their place in the super league for all time, they can never drop out but in current model one bad season and they do and someone else then gets a shot in top tier (champions league).
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“I didnβt think for one minute it would be 12 in 12 out or something like that”
Why not? The current model allows for multiple new teams from each nation to qualify for one of the 3 comps each season. Would be much bigger turn around than 12 teams especially considering qualifying rounds.
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No one is threatening my budgie banjo π
I like it as it is, can reform the euro comps all they want but it needs to be fed by domestic leagues based on domestic performance.
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I’ll be honest, I haven’t read up on this yet nor have I read all the posts on here but my initial thinking is why would we (the PL clubs) need this? Surely this is all about fear from the other leagues because the PL is becoming so powerful. The same PL who have only recently become the powerhouse league of Europe. All those years first Serie A then La Liga clubs were able to blow PL clubs away with their financial superiority and now we’re expected to help them catch us up? Is this something which would only replace the CL? It sounds messy to basically break away from Uefa and all that would entail.
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Ed, it’s not fear from the other leagues, la liga statement is spot on for example.
It is fear of the handful of elite clubs across Europe, chiefly juve, barca and Real.
You see, unlike the prem league that encourages competition by awarding tv money more fairly, the other elite clubs in Europe have always demanded they have a bigger cut in their domestic leagues. This has meant that the PL has become far better and their leagues can’t compete.
They should follow PL lead not try to destroy it, but they far too selfish and greedy to consider that.
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P.s, and you are right Ed, PL clubs don’t need it at allπ
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Double chocolate with extra nuts please!!
Well, you can’t have a promotion/demotion system in a EURO super league if every club, in theory, have to qualify each year… so, how does this lot sound???
64 Teams in it to start with… (don’t ask me what 64 teams you start with, I haven’t thought that far ahead!)…
4 groups of 16 teams (1-16 or A, 17-32 or B, 33-48 or C, 49-64 or D)
Each group gets split into half, for the sake of explanation A1 & A2, B1 & B2 etc….
8 Mini Leagues of 8 teams (so everybody gets at least 14 games to keep the bean counters happy!)
Top 4 of “A” Leagues go to the end of season punch up knock out mini comp (so like a 1/4, 1/2 and final)… bottom 3 get relegated to group B
Top of Group B get promoted to Group A for next year, Bottom 3 to Group C.. etc.. so basically 3 up/3 down between each group…
Group D, bottom 4 (so 8 teams in total are out) and the 8 qualifiers from whatever the qualifying tourny get put it… (stick with the Europa League format for that…
Each Year, you now end up with a new group A, B, C & D to be split in half… 8 new teams every year in Group D… and every league nominates the next best teams (like the Europa) for the qualifying tourny who aren’t already qualified!
Can I have some deep fried budgie wings with that?
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That’s more like it banjo but it’s far from what is being proposed mate.
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Actually banjo I first thought you were suggesting 8 new teams per group ie 32 new places in ESL available each year but actually its just 8 at the bottom. Yes it’s better than the current ESL proposal but both far inferior to current model imo where there are new teams at all tiers every year and someone can go from no Europe to top tier of european competition based on league finish in one year.
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Expanding the number of teams to 60 or 80 would just dilute the quality and it certainly wouldn’t be a Super League imo, this proposal needs kicking back into the long grass it’s all about generating more cash for Juve, Real and Barca.
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That’s what it sounds like to me too Nine. It’s those 3 being terrified that the Premier League teams are outgrowing them in all departments because of their greedy way of handling TV rights distribution. Barcelona are a complete shambles of a club with all their levers business. They don’t deserve to have the PL clubs bail them out, which is what this seems to me to be.
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Ed, nine, spot on imo lads π
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This is ultimately about commerce. No interests of football whatsoever; not the fans and certainly not the players.
We are first of all fighting fitness and players are trying to measure up optimum performances game in game out. It’s not the amount of games, but the timescale where fixtures already feel compressed and natural rest and recovery time for players not taken.
The world cup if I’m right in believing will be a new proposition in 2026 from the original 32 to an increase of 48.
How does the Super league fit ultimately? Do these so called chosen teams ‘sacrifice’ their domestic league for this new league?
We have competitions available that allows English teams to associate with European Teams and Exhibition tournaments can be arranged as a pre-season, because for me, the novelty of playing Real Madrid umpteenth times will wear off.
Please leave this alone as it is. Anything like this, and I’ll consider watching the Championship and League 1.
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