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13th July 2019 at 1:13 pm #43310
That should say have not been good enough
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13th July 2019 at 2:34 pm #43311I agree so much with the above. Clubs should just say no to silly fees. Pogba Β£150m! Do me a favour. Its time to stand up to this nonsense. In todays market Β£50-60m should be the max. But it is a free market. When I was doing my Economics degree all those years ago I did a long essay on bucking the market. All the research showed that if you try to control the market with rules or legilation the impact is temporary and the market reverts back (unless you live in a communist dictatorship or similar). That is why FFP in its current form can never work.
City ( I know Im biased) are saying no to silly fees eg Sanchez,Fred, Maguire etc. Its easy for me to say because we have a rich owner and no debt._____________________________
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13th July 2019 at 4:18 pm #43312In the old days if a player wasnβt a success at a club his price usually shit down Lol
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13th July 2019 at 4:28 pm #43313Mak-I would pay you Β£40 quid just to keep Lukaku,or Lakau as the wasplicker would say,lol.
As for VVD joining Barca,surely the wee Phil would be in his mind???_____________________________
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13th July 2019 at 5:43 pm #43314Utd are well within their rights to ask for Β£100mil for Lukaku and Β£150mil for Pogba if they want. Why should Utd be the ones to bring the fees back down to what they used to be? When Utd are getting quoted Β£50mil for Sean Longstaff who’s played about 10 games, I think Β£150mil is about right for Pogba who has a World Cup and many club trophies to his name.
Adlab, you paid Β£60mil for bloody Mahrez so don’t give us the “City aren’t part of the problem” rubbish. They’re all as bad as each other. With respect, City are the last club to preaching to anyone about spending money. City have easily spent the most money in world football to get where they are.
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13th July 2019 at 6:23 pm #43315Besides, I really wish people would stop saying things like “Utd saying Pogba is worth Β£150mil/Β£180mil? Are they having a laugh?”. If the figures reported are even true, this isn’t Utd saying what he’s “worth”. It’s Utd saying “we don’t want to sell our player. But cough up Β£150mil and maybe we can talk”.
That’s exactly how a club should react if they don’t want to sell a player. It’s why I don’t have any issued whatsoever with Newcastle quoting us Β£50mil for Longstaff. He’s their player, as Pogba is ours.
I mean I don’t want to sell my house. Let’s say it’s market value was Β£100k. Should I then just sell it for that because someone wants it and because asking for more is not fair? Or should I say “well I’m not selling but give me Β£150k and we can talk”. It baffles me that people think clubs should just bend over and accept when a club wants their player. The player is quite happy to sign a contract so he should stick to it until someone pays whatever the club is prepared to accept for him.
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13th July 2019 at 6:27 pm #43316AnonymousYa Nine, Neymar and countless other big sales constantly push the bar up but as Mav said, if a player is kinda a failed signing (in terms of their reputation going down after etc) then the price should not go up, even in a market that is pushing up to new levels.
Ed, Utd are within their right to ask for 10 billion but it doesn’t make it realistic. Why should they be the ones to bring prices back down? it’s not about Utd. It’s about players who moved to Utd in their peak and are no longer considered to be at that level, for one reason or another. That’s over-simplifying too of course because there is also the fact that the likes of Pogba moved to Utd when Juve wanted to keep him. Is that the case now? Maybe but I don’t think that SHOULD be the case at least. I’d sell him if I were them.
They may get silly money for Pogba though yet because I think people would 3expect to see him go back to the level he was before.
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13th July 2019 at 6:28 pm #43317The ones that gets me are cyber warriors who type “X, Y & Z” are all shite so we need to sell them and with the 400m we’ll get we can go out and buy “A, B & C”…
The money is obscene, and at the end of the day it’s all our fault…
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13th July 2019 at 6:32 pm #43318Ed, I said utd are well within their rights to set the price. As I said, utd hold all the cards. Pogba hasnβt proven to be 89m player. Heβs been very average yet he will go for more then he signed for.
My point was neither has been successful
At the club. Couthino is not going to go for 160m after been so bad. His price will come down. Pogba and Lakuku have been no were near as bad but they really havenβt set the world alight and Iβd label Pogba a flop really. No were near the impact a player of his price and Calibre should have had but utd are well within their rights to set the price_____________________________
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13th July 2019 at 6:34 pm #43319Letβs not forget all the TV money flooding in now too. Interesting stat that in the recent new deal, the overseas TV money proportion is now almost catching up with the domestic TV money (45% to 55%, via Swiss Ramble). Donβt be surprised if the overseas TV money eventually overtakes the domestic sooner or later.
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13th July 2019 at 6:37 pm #43320Also Ed I donβt think Pogba is worth 150m even in this climate. Heβs done very little for utd. Has he even improved? No in my opinion. Was he worth 89m? No. Heβs stood still for 3 years.
Heβs a lazy feck if utd fans are honest.so much talent but turns up now and again
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13th July 2019 at 6:38 pm #43321But Mak, if Utd were to quote 10 billion and people deem that unrealistic, whose problem is that? It’s not Utd’s. So Real don’t buy a player because Utd set the fee at a level Real deem unrealistic and that’s Utd’s job to solve? Remember, Utd don’t want to sell him, so why on earth would they quote a “realistic” fee? People were hammering Utd for what they paid for Pogba first time round. I didn’t hear anyone then saying Juve should have let us have him for less because it’s not fair otherwise. We asked what they wanted and paid it. It’s time Real/Juve did the same or walk away. Simple as that. I mean, let’s say for arguments sake, Utd wanted Salah (ignoring the obvious fact it would never happen). Do you think Liverpool should quote us a realistic fee for him? So 100mil maybe in today’s market? You’d be happy for that to happen would you?
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13th July 2019 at 6:38 pm #43322Also I never said anything about utd being the club to bring prices down. Not sure how that popped up chum
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13th July 2019 at 6:40 pm #43323Ed, I really think you have got the wrong end of the debate here and gone off the scale a bit mate.
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13th July 2019 at 6:44 pm #43324Sean, I hadn’t actually read your posts. I was referring to Adlab and Mak seemingly suggesting we should sell him for max 50-60mil. It’s completely irrelevant how he has developed in the time we’ve had him. If we go into the market to replace him, we’re going to have to massively overpay (Longstaff 50mil) so why should we sell a player (the club want to keep!!) for a fee which the buying club deem realistic?
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13th July 2019 at 6:47 pm #43325I stand by all my posts Sean. Maybe it’s come across in a way different to how I intended it but I genuinely have can’t fathom why Utd should be expected to sell a player we want to keep for a fee which the buying club feel is fair. The only party to decide a player’s worth is the selling club.
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13th July 2019 at 6:59 pm #43326P.S Sean I completely agree that Pogba hasn’t pushed on. All the talent in the world but lack of professionalism stops him reaching the absolute top. Seen plenty of what he can do in flashes but way too inconsistent. But whether he’s worth 10mil or 1 billion in actual market value, Utd are doing exactly the right thing by asking for a huge fee for a player they don’t want to sell.
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13th July 2019 at 7:27 pm #43327I’m almost glad we’re out of the transfer market this Summer.?
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13th July 2019 at 7:35 pm #43328Ed I totally agree about utd setting the fee
I doubt Longstaff is the replacement Ed. Itβs going to be interesting to see who else utd get in. I think they will get Maguire and Bruno ferndes in anyway
Can anyone actually afford Pogba? Juve or Madrid?
Have Italian clubs more money these days due to some new tax relief scheme introduced recently?
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13th July 2019 at 7:42 pm #43329Steady Eddy from Sweeden-If Newcastle can cite us Longstaff Β£50m then of course we can & should demand Β£200m for Pogba.But,what if the said player is in fact being a disruptive element in the team/squad? And the Instagram boy said as much,namely that he wants a new challenge.Lets come to a civilised compromise with Real Madrid and part ways in an amicable way.
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