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Rumour of Jose back to the bridge?
Can’t see it at all but would Chelsea fans like to see him back?
I think Jose is still a very good manager. Next job will really tell us if he has lost his spark or not but his record is still unreal
Lampard May well be Chelsea manager in the future but now is not the right time
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Fuck no,not Jose,not again? Dont we have enough to put up with Pep & Rafa? What next,Wenger and SAF to come back?Lol
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Jose is quite selective on the types of players he wants. With Chelsea still facing a transfer embargo, Jose is not really the manager you want at the helm for that.
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Jose can’t possibly be true fired twice plus what about all that money he stole from Chelsea. No chance bookies trying their luck.
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I don’t think Jose is the busted flush that some do and if the right Club emerges for him I think he may well prove that but that Clubs not Chelsea imo and I wouldn’t want to see him come back again and I think that’s the view of the majority of Chelsea fans.
Big rumours on Rafa this morning who personally I would be quite happy with but I think it’s unlikely despite him being second favourite now behind Frank.
Frank remains odds on its a risk but given all the circumstances I think that might be the way Chelsea go.
First things first though Sarri has to join Juve after which I suspect things will quickly drop into place for someone currently most likely Frank and Jody.
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The odds have moved a bit with the speculation re Rafa who is now second favourite behind Frank Lampard who is still odds on but has slipped back marginally in the betting.
Latest SkyBet Odds 11/06
Frank Lampard
1/4
Rafa Benitez
4/1
Jose Mourinho
12/1
Massimilano Allegri
12/1
Nuno Espírito Santo
18/1
Erik ten Hag
20/1
Steve Holland
20/1
Brendan Rodgers
25/1
Diego Simeone
25/1
Eddie Howe
25/1Meanwhile Frank is pictured in London lunching with Didier Drogba?
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Mav, Fergie is 77 and Wenger is 69 whilst Benitez is only 59. He’s got one more big job left in him imo whether at Chelsea or somewhere else.
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Well that’s not the most inspiring list, from that I’d take Rafa as long as he surrounded himself with existing staff from in and around the youth setup, after him much as I think it’s too early it would be Frank and Jody…..Pagan
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I can’t for the life of me understand why Chelsea would go for a completely untested Lampard over a serial winner like Allegri. If Lampard had not been a Chelsea player and not been a top player at all, would anyone have looked at his managerial achievements and said “he should be at a club competing for trophies”? Not a chance! As fans we too often get blinded by nostalgia. Allegri should be red hot favourite with Benitez a fallback option.
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Ed, Chelsea have been trendsetters over the last 15 years, rich foreign owner, spending obscene money on players, player power, managerial revolving door etc. It’s now the norm for those things at most clubs. As Ken Bates said, instead of Chelsea being the Man U of the South Man U will become the Chelsea of the North.
Well hopefully at some stage we will start another trend, that of bringing youth through from 8 years old to first team, not just the odd one now and again, but several. To do this the last thing you need is another impact manager that comes in for 3 seasons if he’s lucky and then moves on to the next “must have on the CV” club and to my mind that means having a manager that has a connection to the club, where the club means something to him.
Personally I think it’s a couple of seasons to early for Frank, but I’d sooner have him than an impact manager….Pagan
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Pagan, I beg to differ. There isn’t a chance a Chelsea manager will be allowed to sacrifice winning trophies in order to ensure he meets his academy players quota. If you honestly think Abramovic cares about how many kids get through into the first team, I seriously question where you’ve been for the last 15 years. It just isn’t going to happen at top clubs where a bunch of young players all come through together again.
If Chelsea want to be a club like Southampton then fine. It could work. Have players coming through all the time. Be a nice club that neutrals like. It would be good for the game. But I don’t think that’s what they want.
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I’d take an impact manager at Utd in an instant if it meant we could do 4 domestic doubles in a row like Allegri did and how many league titles in a row?
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Besides, as for Chelsea setting a trend by appointing a club legend with a somewhat average managerial career who brings through lots of young players and gets some good PR for the Club, I’m pretty sure we’ve beat you to that one! Look where it got us though. Be careful what you wish for is all I’ll say. I’d take being the Chelsea of the North any day over our current position. Haven’t Chelsea won the most trophies in England over the last decade?
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Ed, the dynamic is changing though what with FFP, the transfer ban and the high scoring, high point tallies of attacking managers like Klopp and Guardiola. I think it will be a mammoth task for all the chasing clubs to compete with the top 2 clubs next season, let alone surpass them. Whilst Juve were a very polished and class side under Allegri in the CL last season, I just didn’t think they were ruthless enough in the attacking sense – even with Ronaldo in the team.
I note that Leicester wasted no time in appointing Rodgers – an attacking manager who is good at developing players – and I actually think they may surprise people next season, particularly if they hold on to their players. (He really wasn’t helped by the transfer committee at Liverpool either and that should be borne in mind when judging his time there). I’d be curious to ask Chelsea fans – if Rodgers was now available, would you like him as manager?
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Personally I would take Rafa ahead of Rodgers.
I don’t think any Chelsea fans are thinking Chelsea will finish above City and Liverpool next season, I doubt anyone will finish above City or Liverpool next season but that won’t last forever football is cyclical.
Maybe the strategy at Chelsea is to take more of a medium to long term view the ban will only last for a season even if it sticks and Chelsea would then have the Hazard money and what wasn’t spent this Summer to add to next Summer’s spend which would give them very significant funds to spend next Summer with a Manager with his feet already under the table and a Technical Director probably well in place by then too.
In the meantime they will have bedded in more of the exciting young players they have into the squad as we’ve seen already this season with Loftus Cheek and Hudson Odoi alongside the incoming Pulisic.
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The thoughts of Rio.?
“Rio Ferdinand reckons Frank Lampard is “perfect” for the Chelsea job — and drawn parallels with Pep Guardiola.
The current Derby County boss and Blues legend has spoken to the new Europa League champions, who are hunting a replacement for the outgoing Maurizio Sarri, and is interested in a return.
Free-agent former Juventus boss Max Allegri is also a candidate and is a far more experienced option having just steered the Italian giants to a fifth Serie A title in a row, but Ferdinand said of old team-mate Lampard: “He is the perfect choice.”
Sarri is expected to be confirmed as Allegri’s replacement at Juve later this week, but Chelsea want to have his successor in place before they announce his departure after just one season.
Lampard has just one season of management under his belt, and that was in England’s second tier, but Ferdinand said: “I will actually be surprised if they look elsewhere.
Bringing Lampard and assistant Jody Morris back to former club Chelsea looks a no-brainer to Ferdinand.
“They have tried with all these great managers. No disrespect to Allegri, he’s done unbelievable things at Juventus, but they have had Carlo Ancelotti, they have had [Antonio] Conte, Sarri, [Jose] Mourinho: all managers who have done great things – and never stuck with them.“So are you going to continue doing that, and keep blowing money away with these managers who you have to pay up after two years? Or are you gonna go with someone who the fans are going to love to have back?”
With a two-window transfer ban looming and an unstinting commitment to young players from Lampard’s assistant and former Chelsea Academy coach Jody Morris, Ferdinand believes the Blues’ board must surely hand the job to his former club and country colleague.
“If Chelsea are going to get a ban transfer-wise, I don’t think they can look anywhere but Frank if I am honest,” he said. “He and Jody know all the kids from 16 upwards. They know what they can all do.
“Chelsea have had the best young kids in the country for a while now – Manchester City are coming around that but for a good few years Chelsea have had the best kids and none of them get in the first team. As a football club you would think they would like to change that.
“If they want to change that, there is no one but Frank. He is someone who their young players are going to look at every day and say, ‘Wow! Frank is gonna play us. He played [Chelsea loanee] Mason Mount at Derby every game when he was fit, he played [Liverpool loanee Harry] Wilson every game he was fit. He trusts kids. His first season, under mad pressure at Derby, he played all the kids. He is gonna do that with us!’
“So he invigorates not only the first team and the fans but the kids coming through. At a time when managers are scared and under pressure not to play kids, I think it will be refreshing.”
Ferdinand has been appointed the FA’s Euro 2020 ambassador with the tournament set to be shared between 12 cities across Europe for the first time. Wembley will be the venue for seven matches, including both semi-finals and the final.
While critics and some in Stamford Bridge are concerned by Lampard’s managerial ‘L’ plates, Ferdinand points to Guardiola — who’d had just a year of coaching before taking over as head coach of mighty Barcelona in 2008.
Chelsea’s six targets to replace Maurizio Sarri as board make demands for next season
Lampard has one year of lower-division management on his CV — the same as Guardiola when he got the Barcelona job.
The former Barca and Spain midfielder had been in charge of Barcelona ‘B’, steering their second string to first place in the Tercera Division Grupo 5 — part of the fourth tier of Spanish football — before succeeding Frank Rijkaard as first-team boss.
Lampard steered an ailing Derby side to the brink of promotion to the Premier League at his first time of asking, losing 2-1 in the play-off final to Aston Villa.
Ferdinand added: “People talk about experience and what-not but what experience did Pep have when he went into Barcelona’s first team? He trained the younger kids at the club.
“Would he [Lampard] wilt under the pressure when big players throw a wobbly in training? I don’t think he would. Frank knows Chelsea, he knows the players and the players will respect him.”
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I just can’t agree with Rio there. I don’t understand the point people are making when they point to Pep as having been a great player and got a big job after very little managerial experience. It’s factually correct but also an extremely rare occurrence. Tons of great players get big jobs too early because of who they are and fall flat on their face. Pep is the exception, not the rule. I, for one, hope Lampard gets the job because I think Chelsea will become a nice club who play a few of their kids. I like my team competing against nice clubs who put winning down the list of priorities!
Mikus,you say it will be a mammoth task to catch Liverpool and City. I don’t particularly disagree with the principle of that but people were saying the same the previous season about anyone catching City and Liverpool went from being 25 points behind them to a mere point behind. That took a couple of very good signings.
Mikus, I agree that Juve probably lacked a bit of a ruthless streak in the CL but they weren’t far off. Pep hasn’t won the CL since his Barca win either which is a surprise with the teams he’s had available. But, comparing Allegri and Lampard, are we honestly saying we think a Lampard side is more likely to show a ruthless streak? They collapsed in the playoff final too, don’t forget.
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Lampard has one year of lower-division management on his CV — the same as Guardiola when he got the Barcelona job.
What next? “Just like Guardiola when he neared the end of his playing career, Rooney is going bald. This bodes well for his managerial career”
My point is you can’t just say “look this worked for Pep so it can for Lampard too” whilst ignoring the other 99% of managers who get huge jobs because of who they are as players.
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people forget the Barca DNA, its like Ajax, its runs trhough the club from B teams to youth etc, they play the same way with the same ethos, Pep played there under great managers then went to the B team….the ethos is more important than being an Ex player, how many ex Barca or even Ajax players have gopne on to be top top managers? its more than being an ex club p[layer or legend, much moreim with Ed on this one…that said long a shot as it may be…if it did work out then stroke of genius lol
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Ed, I agree it would be a massive risk appointing Frank, how often does a Guardiola type appointment work out? And the Ole situation albeit he might yet turn things around given a Summer transfer window and a pre Season should serve as a massive warning imo.
Of the runners and riders in the betting I would probably go for ten Hag, Allegri Espiriti Santo or Rafa. Despite the enormous amount of goodwill towards Frank.
However I can’t help thinking Roman might be looking to do something completely different which might point to Frank and Jody with Cech as Technical Director.
Given all the circumstances I would probably plump for ten Hag as first choice but whoever we appoint if it’s not Guardiola is a risk. ?
No matter who it is I will support them I just want to get it all done and dusted now to give whoever is appointed the best chance of a proper pre season.
I also agree with you that it’s not a foregone conclusion that City and Liverpool will dominate the PL for the next 5 or so years Liverpool came from 4th place and also ran’s to nearly winning it on the back of a £250m investment and 4 good signings. And City although dominant now have an ageing squad and problems with UEFA to deal with and history tells us that Pep won’t be there for ever and neither will Klopp be.
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